Re: Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-03-30 Thread 'Christoph Läubrich' via OPS4J
Well obviously log4j being an ASF project has not protected it from beeing affected by one of the worst bugs, neither has "solarwind" who most probably knows all developers in person so I don't get it either, this all for me is more a false-security feeling or just a generic "it might be bette

Re: Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-03-29 Thread 'Achim Nierbeck' via OPS4J
Hi Matt, Again, sorry for being PITA about it, I would really like to understand what kind of problem should be solved? I looked at the list of people that are able to work directly on the ops4j projects, 110. https://github.com/orgs/ops4j/people Then I know from the past, that we had a couple of

Re: Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-03-29 Thread Matt Pavlovich
Hello Christoph- Again, the issue isn't a complaint. OPS4J simply does not have verification of developer identity. More contributions or donations won't solve that. Even the most staunch open source projects (ie Debian) require verification of developer id. Thank you, Matt On Monday, March

Re: Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-03-27 Thread 'Christoph Läubrich' via OPS4J
I can only encourage everyone that get "complains" or "concerns" of "big bussiness" or even single users telling them to simply start contribution or funding OS projects they depend on: participation/review/testing (especially upcoming versions) is the best way to mitigate "supply-chain-attack

Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-02-25 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Thanks all for your comment. Fair discussion. I agree with you, just wanted to have this open discussion and share some messages I received. Let's keep PAX as it is, at OPS4J. Thanks Regards JB On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:34 AM Łukasz Dywicki wrote: > > I see problem similar to Achim. We still

Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-02-24 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi Achim Just wanted to share concerns I received. Basically, PAX projects are "free fields", without strong guarantee in the release (not formal staging/vote/review). It doesn't mean we don't do that, it's just not strongly enforced ;) I don't mean we *have to* do it, I'm just sharing comments

Fwd: [DISCUSSION] Move PAX projects to Apache Karaf ?

2022-02-24 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi guys, Some of you already pinged me to share concerns about PAX projects governance. I think it's my duty to share these concerns and discuss possible actions. Apache Karaf is one of the biggest consumers of PAX projects. However, PAX projects use a "self own" designed governance: - for contr