Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-19 Thread daniele.ietf
Thanks a lot Jeff, Comments like this one are extremely helpful. Thanks, Daniele From: JEAN-FRANCOIS BOUQUIER, Vodafone Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 4:20 PM To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; maqiufang (A) Cc: inventory-y...@ietf.org; ivy-cha...@ietf.org; opsawg ; cc...@ietf.org Subje

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-19 Thread JEAN-FRANCOIS BOUQUIER, Vodafone
Dear Daniele/Qiufang and all, From operator side, we definitely have use cases for an IETF data model covering HW network inventory only for the MPI interface (e.g. between P-PNC and O-PNC and MDSC). As mentioned already several times, this has been identified as a gap for a long time now in

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-15 Thread Camilo Cardona
Hello Daniele, Oh, absolutely nothing with bad intent or complain. I apologize if the “there is always something was wrong” phrase was too negative.   All models change, more if they aim for concepts that are hard to abstract, as this one. I was just wondering if in general, as a policy,

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-15 Thread Daniele Ceccarelli
Hi Camilo, As you said there will always be something that "could have been done better"...but we'll not request for the publication of a document/model of low quality. Moreover both the documents we're considering for adoption have been there for a while with a lot of experts working on both of t

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-15 Thread Camilo Cardona
Hello group, Daniele, thanks for the previous summary. Option 4 is a good compromise to explore first. One question for chairs (maybe even AD): are we aiming at standardising a base model quickly and then accepting that something was wrong (there is always something wrong) and doing a n

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-15 Thread Italo Busi
Daniele & Qiufang, I would like to request a slot to discuss the technical issues that need to be addressed to evolve draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 to become the network inventory base model, including how the overall network inventory model can be modularized If there is enough a

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-15 Thread Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero)
Hi chairs/WG As I didn’t answer the initial survey yet, I thought I was still on time. I take the opportunity to base my answer on your analysis. My preference is for the below option4, based more on the “simplicity and focus”, with the starting approach of draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-ya

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-11 Thread Sergio Belotti (Nokia)
+1 I agree with Jeff, Dieter, and Gabriele. My preference is option 1 to adopt draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY and evolve it to become the network inventory base model. This draft already addresses the main requirement operators highlighted since the beginning of the inventory w

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-05 Thread Roberto Manzotti
Hi Qiufang, Daniele and all, I also prefer option 1. to adopt draft-ietf-ccamp-network-inventory-yang-02 in IVY, since I agree on the clear separation between inventory and operational and topology data, and also the consistence with other established standards. At the same time, I second a

Re: [OPSAWG] [Inventory-yang] [CCAMP] [inventory-yang] poll for network inventory base model

2023-09-04 Thread Dieter Beller (Nokia)
+1 Thanks, Dieter On 04-Sep-23 16:41, Gabriele Galimberti wrote: I agree with Jeff too. Best Regards, Gabriele Galimberti Via Melgacciata, 13 20813 – Bovisio Masciago (MB) Italy +39 3357481947 *Da: *CCAMP per conto di "JEAN-FRANCOIS BOUQUIER, Vodafone" *Data: *lunedì 4 settembre 202