Re: Google becomes usefull for us again

2008-01-02 Thread Scott Bennett
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:24:11 +0100 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 11:09:09 2008-01-02 kazaam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:48:59 -0800 >> "F. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Sadly, my experience with Google offering CAPTCHAs, is that it's >> > hit-and-miss; some

RE: setting the minimum number of routers used in the network

2008-01-02 Thread Scott Bennett
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:36:40 +1100 "Cameorn Burns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ta for that Drake > Sigh. From the freebsd-questions list, please read first: -> Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:05:59 -0500 -> From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> Subject: Re: top posting (off-topic) ->

Re: Google becomes usefull for us again

2008-01-02 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:25:35 -0800 "F. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Alexander W. Janssen wrote: >> F. Fox schrieb: >>> [I was going to leave your quoted message in... but my Lord, is your >>> monitor as wide as a football field?! =xoD ] >> >> Since you're using Icedove, a little hint: If

Re: Problems understanding and using Vidalia Network Map

2008-01-02 Thread Scott Bennett
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:41:00 +0100 kazaam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:13:31 +0100 >"Ben Stover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On the left side there are the available Tor servers. > >correct > >> But what connections are in the mid column (below the worldmap) ? > >These a

(tor + linux).install()

2008-01-02 Thread Jon McLachlan
I have a bare-minimum linux box, much like a planetlab node that I'd like to use to deploy a Tor relay. In installing Tor, I am having trouble satisfying the dependencies for the latest stable tor linux source tarball (tor-0.1.2.18.tar.gz). I (believe I) have successfully installed the latest

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Paul Syverson
At the risk of jumping into a conversation I barely skimmed, it sounds like you're talking about something Nicko van Someren described at the rump session at CRYPTO 98 and expanded on in "Playing 'Hide and Seek' with Stored Keys", a paper with Adi Shamir at FC 99. My remembered impression of the pr

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Eugene Y. Vasserman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Thus spake Ringo Kamens, on 1/2/2008 8:51 PM: > A new vista service pack just "upgraded" to that "backdoored" random > number algorithm. Suit yourself in believing Microsoft. I'm not defending Microsoft, I'm just trying to see things from both sides

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Ringo Kamens
A new vista service pack just "upgraded" to that "backdoored" random number algorithm. Suit yourself in believing Microsoft. Comade Ringo Kamens On Jan 2, 2008 9:42 PM, Eugene Y. Vasserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Thus spake Ringo Kamens,

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Eugene Y. Vasserman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Thus spake Ringo Kamens, on 1/2/2008 4:17 PM: > Also, see http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html > And yeah, I was talking about the NSA key. Personally (and god help me), I believe Microsoft when they say the key is not a key back door key. If it w

Re: Your computer is too slow to handle this many creation requests!

2008-01-02 Thread coderman
On Jan 2, 2008 2:10 PM, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > Don't tell me AES is the bottleneck on a Padlock system. VIA C7 > can process way more AES blocks than the (typically crappy) NIC > can handle. compression (zlib) is the Tor bottleneck on a 1.5Ghz C7. crypto throughput with pa

Re: Tsocks and DNS

2008-01-02 Thread Ringo Kamens
Thanks for the response. It sounds like torify and tsocks may not be the best solution. Are there any other good *nix applications/workarounds that people have been using? Comrade Ringo Kamens On Jan 2, 2008 4:52 PM, Nick Mathewson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 04:41:32PM -

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Ringo Kamens
Also, see http://www.schneier.com/essay-198.html And yeah, I was talking about the NSA key. Comrade Ringo Kamens On Jan 2, 2008 4:24 PM, Nick Mathewson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 02:47:11PM -0600, Eugene Y. Vasserman wrote: > > Thus spake Ringo Kamens on Sun, 23 Dec 2007

Re: Your computer is too slow to handle this many creation requests!

2008-01-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Nick Mathewson wrote: > Yeah, this _is_ a problem. I'd like to get it so that AES is also > parallelized (since AES is where a well-behaved Tor spends most of its Don't tell me AES is the bottleneck on a Padlock system. VIA C7 can process way more AES bl

Re: Your computer is too slow to handle this many creation requests!

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 10:43:32PM +0100, Olaf Selke wrote: > morphium wrote: > > > > Tor is only using about 80 MBits, so that aren't even 10% of the Bandwith I > > want to give for tor. > > eeh? Wanna give Tor 800 MBits/s? > > Tor is a cpu hog efficiently using one core only. On my Debian box

Re: Tsocks and DNS

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 04:41:32PM -0500, Nick Mathewson wrote: [...] > They don't say what license their code is distributed under. I spoke too soon. tsocks is under GPLv2, and they distribute a patched tsocks with the license in place. Honestly, I don't want to make it sound like there's any

Re: Tsocks and DNS

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 07:54:28PM -0500, Ringo Kamens wrote: > I have a question regarding tsocks. According to > http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorifyHOWTO#DNSNote, tsocks > leaks DNS requests and it suggests I either use tor-resolve or apply the > patch at http://www.totalinfosec

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 02:47:11PM -0600, Eugene Y. Vasserman wrote: > Thus spake Ringo Kamens on Sun, 23 Dec 2007: > > (snip) > >Also, we know the NSA and DoJ have engaged in > >this type of activity in the past such as "working" with Microsoft to > >secure vista and having their priv

Re: Map of surveillance societies

2008-01-02 Thread Jan-Kaspar Münnich
On 02.01.2008, at 15:52, Hans Schnehl wrote: I assume Germany is seen as before the new laws came into force. No, the new (data retention) laws were already taken into account. Don't make it worse than it is ;) "Fingerprints have been included in ID cards, although not for storage on a

Re: [OT] more from Cryptome on NSA, Windows firewals, mail services

2008-01-02 Thread Eugene Y. Vasserman
Thus spake Ringo Kamens on Sun, 23 Dec 2007: (snip) >Also, we know the NSA and DoJ have engaged in >this type of activity in the past such as "working" with Microsoft to >secure vista and having their private key inserted into windows >versions so they could decrypt things. I've h

Re: what about SMTPS over Tor?

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Fick
--- anonym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 02/01/08 09:16, anon ymous wrote: > But I'm more interested in smtp on the "open" > Internet currently as I don't want to push too many > new concepts on the people I try to help, > _and_ I need a solution fast (+ I don't have any > resources for putting

Re: Map of surveillance societies

2008-01-02 Thread Ricardo Cristof Remmert-Fontes
Hi! Am 02.01.2008 um 15:52 schrieb Hans Schnehl: just in case someone wishes to move servers around, see the map for where to avoid: http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd%5B347% 5D=x-347-559597 Or build a trustworthy alliance of lawyers and experts. The Humanistische Unio

Re: what about SMTPS over Tor?

2008-01-02 Thread anonym
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/01/08 09:16, anon ymous wrote: > > On 12/25/07, anonym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So I'm investigating the possibility of using SMTPS (i.e. SMTP over SSL) >> on Thunderbird with Torbutton. In fact, this email should have been sent >> over Tor

Re: TLS errors

2008-01-02 Thread Hans Schnehl
Thx for the fast replies, I wasn't really scared but rather curious about what the logs were saying. On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 05:22:36PM +0100, Csaba Kiraly wrote: > Hi, > As far as I can tell (I'm not a developer) the error message you see is > normal behavior, just logged in a way that scar

Re: TLS errors

2008-01-02 Thread Csaba Kiraly
Hi, As far as I can tell (I'm not a developer) the error message you see is normal behavior, just logged in a way that scares people ;) Of course it can also be something else, but you can find a possible explanation in my previous mail in the "no traffic?" thread: http://archives.seul.org/or/

Re: tor26 missing certificate messages today

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 11:42:22PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote: > This afternoon my tor server began logging the following messages: > > Dec 09 15:10:18.474 [notice] We're missing a certificate from authority tor26 > with signing key : launching request

Map of surveillance societies

2008-01-02 Thread Hans Schnehl
just in case someone wishes to move servers around, see the map for where to avoid: http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd%5B347%5D=x-347-559597 Interesting. I assume Germany is seen as before the new laws came into force. Regards Hans

Re: TLS errors

2008-01-02 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans Schnehl wrote: > Hi, Hi! > Jan 02 12:46:06.204 [debug] TLS error: > (errno=54: Connection reset by peer) Jan 02 12:46:06.204 [info] > connection_read_to_buf(): tls error [connection reset]. breaking > (nickname NoNickNode, address 111.112.113.1

TLS errors

2008-01-02 Thread Hans Schnehl
Hi, I do have a lot of reoccurring entries as following with Tor logging on debug level. This is Tor v0.2.0.15-alpha-dev (r13006) but same was happening before with lower versions. Here is an excerpt: %tail -f /usr/local/etc/tor/debug.log | grep error Jan 02 12:45:57.965 [info] TLS e

torstatus.blutmagie.de server stats 11/2007 and 12/2007

2008-01-02 Thread Olaf Selke
hi, I've exported my awstat full country list accessing http://torstatus.blutmagie.de during November and December 2007 into a pdf file. I don't wanna provide the whole world with direct awstat cgi access. Data collection started not until beginning November 2007. Maybe somebody out there find it

Re: Google becomes usefull for us again

2008-01-02 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
On 11:09:09 2008-01-02 kazaam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:48:59 -0800 > "F. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sadly, my experience with Google offering CAPTCHAs, is that it's > > hit-and-miss; sometimes they'll give a CAPTCHA, more often they won't. > > Yes I also figu

Re: Google becomes usefull for us again

2008-01-02 Thread kazaam
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:48:59 -0800 "F. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly, my experience with Google offering CAPTCHAs, is that it's > hit-and-miss; sometimes they'll give a CAPTCHA, more often they won't. Yes I also figured this out now. But makes this sense? When do we get a captcha and w

Re: How are German Tor server people doing?

2008-01-02 Thread algenon flower
Thank you for the update Eugen. I will be tracking what becomes of us here in the USA. Right now street level biometric scanning, and multiple database interconnection, are becoming more widespread. I am already wondering what will become of us all when, (IF..) "legitimate" street CCTV databases

Re: Please run a bridge relay!

2008-01-02 Thread Olaf Selke
Andrew Del Vecchio wrote: > Gitano, you rock. It finally works without any error messages! Now one > final thing: It seems that iptables configs are lost when the computer > is shut down. I don't remember you mentioned a reboot between populating the nat iptable and querying :-) Olaf

Re: virtues of middlemen

2008-01-02 Thread anon ymous
On 12/29/07, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Tor network so far is largely seen only as an anonymizing > layer, to access the "real" Internet. > > However, it is fully capable of becoming a real Darknet, > provided hidden services achieve a critical mass, and there > will be a search

Re: what about SMTPS over Tor?

2008-01-02 Thread anon ymous
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/25/07, anonym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'm investigating the possibility of using SMTPS (i.e. SMTP over SSL) > on Thunderbird with Torbutton. In fact, this email should have been sent > over Tor. But as we know, there are several issues