Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-30 Thread Wendy Seltzer
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > I have started to collect statistics and some of my answers on a wiki page: > http://www.wiredwings.com/wiki/Torservers.net_Main_Page#Statistics > So far, there's not been a single real conversation with anyone about the > legal status. > Do

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-30 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Mike, Ok, I've updated https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment with this information. Let me know if there is anything else you think might be helpful, too. Thanks. Will do. A blog would be great. Another option besides publishing the actual complaints w

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-30 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): > >Please get back to us in a week or so with info on your abuse > >complaint rate with the new policy. I'll update > >https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment > >with the policy if it does in fact drastically reduce

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Holstein
> As in, MediaSentry doesn't want Tor to exist (for obvious reasons), so > it DMCA-DoS's new exit nodes? > No, they pick on everyone pretty much equally .. easy to do when you're just using a script to scrape a tracker and complain. I've investigated many of the complaints over the years, and

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-29 Thread Ted Smith
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 19:36 -0700, Mike Perry wrote: > (Though I suspect the SWIP will also help greatly. I am beginning to > believe that these abuse-bot companies deliberately pick on new > hosters who do not have their own IP allocation specified to bully > them off the net). As in, MediaSentr

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-29 Thread Moritz Bartl
I also allow 465 and 563. Those are used by authenticated SMTPS and NNTPS. Thanks. I have added them to the exit policy. Please get back to us in a week or so with info on your abuse complaint rate with the new policy. I'll update https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-h

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-27 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): > On 27.06.2010 04:17, Mondior Folimun wrote: > > I also allow 465 and 563. Those are used by authenticated SMTPS and > > NNTPS. > > There's also the chat ports: 1863 (MSN), 5190 (aim), 5050 (yahoo), 5222- > > 5223 (xmpp/gchat). Those haven't given me

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-27 Thread Bill Weiss
Mondior Folimun(mfoli...@elitemail.org)@Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 04:17:15AM +0200: > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:49 +0200, "Moritz Bartl" > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > Out of curiosity, what exit policy are you now using? Perhaps we > > > want to standardize on a policy that is effective at reducing these > >

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-27 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, On 27.06.2010 04:17, Mondior Folimun wrote: > I also allow 465 and 563. Those are used by authenticated SMTPS and > NNTPS. > There's also the chat ports: 1863 (MSN), 5190 (aim), 5050 (yahoo), 5222- > 5223 (xmpp/gchat). Those haven't given me any problems either. Thanks. I have added them to t

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-26 Thread Mondior Folimun
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:49 +0200, "Moritz Bartl" wrote: > Hi, > > > Out of curiosity, what exit policy are you now using? Perhaps we > > want to standardize on a policy that is effective at reducing these > > complaints. > > At the moment, I allow ports 20-22,53,79-81,110,143,443,706,873,993, > 995

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-26 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, On 27.06.2010 03:00, Mike Perry wrote: > Can you post a copy of your counter-notification? Did they say in > specific why they believe it doesn't meet the requirements? > Also, are you familiar with chillingeffects? They catalog DMCA-related > correspondence and provide some legal FAQs for cou

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-26 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): > > BayTSP/MediaSentry/etc have heard all the > > excuses, including when they tagged my printer as serving up movies; > > they don't care. I fully expect they don't even read the responses, just > > check that a response was received. The response i

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-23 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, > BayTSP/MediaSentry/etc have heard all the > excuses, including when they tagged my printer as serving up movies; > they don't care. I fully expect they don't even read the responses, just > check that a response was received. The response is probably then > catalogued for some future court

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-23 Thread Michael Holstein
> If you can get SoftLayer to do SWIP on the IP address/range assigned to > you, that will offload their complaint person and let you handle > everything automatically. Agreed. Having the whois info for your TOR box come to you as an ORG-ABUSE will offload a lot of this from Softlayer. BayTSP,

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-23 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Jon wrote: >  I don't know if this will help or not, but in the states, my ISP > provider calls me when they get a complaint. They tell me what the > complaint was about, I get the ports the issues came thru and what > they were. All except the last one were Torren

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-23 Thread Jon
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > Hi, > >> Out of curiosity, what exit policy are you now using? Perhaps we want >> to standardize on a policy that is effective at reducing these >> complaints. > > At the moment, I allow ports 20-22,53,79-81,110,143,443,706,873,993, > 995,8008

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-23 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, > Out of curiosity, what exit policy are you now using? Perhaps we want > to standardize on a policy that is effective at reducing these > complaints. At the moment, I allow ports 20-22,53,79-81,110,143,443,706,873,993, 995,8008,8080,. Feel free to suggest others. > If you've filed the c

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-22 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:20:16 +0200 Moritz Bartl wrote: > All these complaints list pretty much the same Torrents, have been > issued by MediaSentry or BayTSP, and each offers to get back to them > on changing email addresses and through a web form. For each single > abuse case, I have tried to re

Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Perry
Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com): > After running our 300MBit/s Tor node for less than a week, the US data > center Softlayer has forced me to limit our exit policy to well-known > ports after receiving 25 automated Torrent DMCA complaints this weekend > and again more than 20 in the

Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

2010-06-22 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi, After running our 300MBit/s Tor node for less than a week, the US data center Softlayer has forced me to limit our exit policy to well-known ports after receiving 25 automated Torrent DMCA complaints this weekend and again more than 20 in the last two days. I hope that now that the policy is r