Re: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-24 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
hgiuh ghj wrote: The lack of anonymity will then deter users from committing crimes, and make it possible to punish the guilty. I agree that if something goes wrong, you need to know who is responsible because the society needs to know. The problem is this system could turn into a kind

RE: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread hgiuh ghj
on). I won't be surprised if the law proves to be inapplicable. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:06:04 -0400 Subject: French 3-Strikes Law From: flamsm...@gmail.com To: or-talk@freehaven.net; tor-rel...@torproject.org http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/french-3-strikes-law-returns-now

Re: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread Flamsmark
The law stated that you are responsible of your connection usage. It simply means, legally, that if someone (undercover or not) else use it, you could be disconnected. They called it the négligence caractérisée, meaning you didn't take any countermeasures to prevent someone else from using

RE: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread hgiuh ghj
The law stated that you are responsible of your connection usage. It simply means, legally, that if someone (undercover or not) else use it, you could be disconnected. They called it the négligence caractérisée, meaning you didn't take any countermeasures to prevent someone else from using

Re: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
hgiuh ghj wrote: Can you give more information about this provision? Is an ISP responsible for the actions of their users? Is a message board owner liable if someone posts unauthorized material? What about an email service provider? What about foreign sites, or corporate sites? If someone

Re: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread James Brown
know about TCP/IP and so on). I won't be surprised if the law proves to be inapplicable. Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:06:04 -0400 Subject: French 3-Strikes Law From: flamsm...@gmail.com To: or-talk@freehaven.net; tor-rel

RE: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread hgiuh ghj
The lack of anonymity will then deter users from committing crimes, and make it possible to punish the guilty. I agree that if something goes wrong, you need to know who is responsible because the society needs to know. The problem is this system could turn into a kind of management by

RE: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread hgiuh ghj
Why you, France people, doesn't protest against that mad law, why you all don't go in streets for protesting? It seems to me that all the World go down the drain if there are so unrighteous laws existing even in the democratic countries (or already not democratic?). To tell the truth, I

Re: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread James Brown
hgiuh ghj wrote: Why you, France people, doesn't protest against that mad law, why you all don't go in streets for protesting? It seems to me that all the World go down the drain if there are so unrighteous laws existing even in the democratic countries (or already not democratic?).

RE: French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-23 Thread hgiuh ghj
I am simply afraid that it will be able so that the states will put us to death or into concentration camps for using the Tor or any other net anonimity means... Everyday some people make some steps against anonymity (freedom in fact) while some do the opposite. This law may be a starting

French 3-Strikes Law

2009-10-22 Thread Flamsmark
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/french-3-strikes-law-returns-now-with-judicial-oversight.ars France's constitutional council has finally accepted the 3-strikes law. Can anyone who's read it comment on what it means for those who operate exits in France? Would operators (likely