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ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for running a tor exit node except: "Do it." or "We do have a lawyer" (how is that supposed to help me?) I will just ask the german "Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik" (https://www.bsi.bund.de) howto setup a

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Dirk, I don't think anyone on this list is "too cool" to give instructions, it is just that instructions already exist. The Tor Project website has information on how to set up a relay. http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en http://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en

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Hi Dirk, > ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips > for running a tor exit node except: What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. Many exit operators run into trouble with their ISP, because they ar

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Moritz Bartl wrote: > Hi Dirk, > >> ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips >> for running a tor exit node except: > > What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an > anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. This stuff: https://blog.torproje

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Dirk wrote: > Moritz Bartl wrote: >> Hi Dirk, >> >>> ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips >>> for running a tor exit node except: >> >> What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an >> anonymizing service is definit

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Dirk, Considering I2P's German home I think you should go back to what others have said, it's not a matter of Legal, it's a matter of reducing activity that might raise the alarm of other people. So read the links sent, consider the port limitations, and work up from there. If you really need to

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:29:49 +0100 Dirk wrote: > But I wan't a legally binding statement from a lawyer or an official > (BSI) that running TOR exit nodes in germany is legal. Ask the CCC for a start. They have defended many Germans already. -- Andrew pgp 0x74ED336B ***

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Thus spake Dirk (noi...@gmx.net): > >> ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips > >> for running a tor exit node except: > > > > What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an > > anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. > > This stuff: > http

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thus Mike Perry spake: > Some of us are also compiling abuse response templates. The goal for > abuse responses is to inform people about Tor, and to suggest > solutions for their security problems that involve improving their > computer security for

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Thus spake Timo Schoeler (timo.schoe...@riscworks.net): > > Some of us are also compiling abuse response templates. The goal for > > abuse responses is to inform people about Tor, and to suggest > > solutions for their security problems that involve improving their > > computer security for the In

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Am 12.01.2011 09:32, schrieb Timo Schoeler: > thus Mike Perry spake: > >> Some of us are also compiling abuse response templates. The goal for >> abuse responses is to inform people about Tor, and to suggest >> solutions for their security problems that involve improving their >> computer securi

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Thus spake Mike Perry (mikepe...@fscked.org): > > Is there any place (e.g. in a wiki) where one could find or even upload > > his own 'response template', as I might assume that they will be very > > specific to the country's law they're issued? > > Here's the (freshly updated) set of abuse compl

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The BSI comment had me rolling on the floor. Could you imagine the paperwork? If you're going to RSA, they'll be there. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Dirk wrote: > ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips for > running a tor exit node except: > > "Do it." or "We

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Moritz Bartl wrote: > > ok... since this mailing list is not able to give at least some tips > > for running a tor exit node except: > > What do you want to know exactly? In many countries, running an > anonymizing service is definitely not illegal. Many exit operators run > into trouble with th

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Hi, On 12.01.2011 22:05, Fabian Keil wrote: > Some of my equipment got seized a few months ago. Good luck on getting it back then! > I'm also not sure how the police would try to seize equipment > and fail (assuming the equipment is actually there). Explosives? ;-) Did you run a Tor exit at ho

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Am 12.01.2011 22:48, schrieb Moritz Bartl: > Did you run a Tor exit at home? I'm not sure if they come and seize your > home computer if the Tor server is hosted in a data center. Olaf seems > not to have run into big trouble yet (or maybe he was quick on replacing > the hardware). running an exi

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Hi! On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > Most complaints you will have to deal with can be easily solved by > telling them about Tor. In extreme cases, the police might come knocking > to your door or even try to seize your equipment, but I am only aware of > a single case in G

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Hi! > But I wan't a legally binding statement from a lawyer or an official (BSI) > that running TOR exit nodes > in germany is legal. In Slovenia there is a law (for Internet commerce) that persons just passing data around, not changing it, choosing destination or source, filter, etc, are not re

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Hi, On top of this, it is *illegal* in Germany to keep user identifiable data unless required for billing purposes. Telemediengesetz §15 Nutzungsdaten http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/tmg/__15.html Let me translate the first paragraph: §15 Usage Data (1) The service provider may collect person

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Hi! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On top of this, it is *illegal* in Germany to keep user identifiable > data unless required for billing purposes. I think it is allowed but you have to clearly inform users of this (register this data collection with data privacy agency

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Hi! On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > and to suggest > solutions for their security problems that involve improving their > computer security for the Internet at large (open wifi, open proxies, > botnets), I am not sure what you mean by that? That there should not be open WiFi

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On 13.01.2011 01:01, Mitar wrote: >> On top of this, it is *illegal* in Germany to keep user identifiable >> data unless required for billing purposes. > I think it is allowed but you have to clearly inform users of this > (register this data collection with data privacy agency) and reasons > for i

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:17:33AM +0100, Mitar wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > > and to suggest > > solutions for their security problems that involve improving their > > computer security for the Internet at large (open wifi, open proxies, > > botnets), > > I am no

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 09:01:34PM -0500, Roger Dingledine wrote: > For more on this topic, I'd point you to a short article a few years > ago by Goodell and Syverson called "The Right Place at the Right Time: > Examining the Use of Network Location in Authentication and Abuse > Prevention" -- but

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On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 01:17:33AM +0100, Mitar wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Mike Perry wrote: >>> and to suggest >>> solutions for their security problems that involve improving their >>> computer security for the Internet at

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Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 12.01.2011 22:05, Fabian Keil wrote: > > Some of my equipment got seized a few months ago. > > Good luck on getting it back then! Thanks. > > I'm also not sure how the police would try to seize equipment > > and fail (assuming the equipment is actually there). > > Ex

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Hi! On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > This is related to the "if you remove Tor from the world, you're not > really reducing the ability of bad guys to be anonymous on the Internet" > idea. This could be then analog argument as saying that if you remove one weapon factor

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Hi,: What the hell are you talking about? The whole idea of Tor is anonymity, and you want Tor to make it easy to identify its users? Thomas Jefferson already answered your question: The man who would choose security over freedom deserves neither. If you want security over freedom, you're w

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Thus spake Mitar (mmi...@gmail.com): > > This is related to the "if you remove Tor from the world, you're not > > really reducing the ability of bad guys to be anonymous on the Internet" > > idea. > > This could be then analog argument as saying that if you remove one > weapon factory from the wo

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Hi! On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > But as soon as she scans her iris, the malware on her > machine would wake up and inform its masters that it is ready to do > their bidding. This can be easily fixed just by using some Apple-app-store-like system where only tested apps (wi