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2001-05-25 Thread Muqeem Sherwani
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ORA-00904

2001-05-25 Thread PHU,JULIA (HP-Sunnyvale,ex2)
Greetings, I'm lost on the 'ORA-00904: invalid column name' error message. Can someone shed some light on it? It is 8i on NT box with sp6a. Regards, Julia Phu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: PHU,JULIA (HP-Sunnyvale,ex2) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat

Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 18:36, Weaver, Walt wrote: > FWIW, all those people who like to slam Oracle Support should pay special > attention to Anita's posts. Cool stuff. There's a number of Oracle folks that really know their stuff. If you don't hang out on mailing lists and search them out at IOU

Re: FW: Transient Delivery Failure

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
It was annoying me too, so I removed it. :) Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 18:15, Rajaram wrote: > Someone please do something about this... This stupid southampton address > keep coming to my mail box... I hope its happening the same with the other > listers > Will anyone look at it and r

Re: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 18:26, Weaver, Walt wrote: > Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should > be removed from the list. I sure appreciate that Walt! > I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and > Solaris. Is this true? A nasty rum

RE: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Weaver, Walt
Hey, this whole thing is one of those classic "lose-lose" situations. Nothing constructive is gonna come out of it, no matter how hard you try. You people are making me sad. STOP IT!!! STOP IT!!! HELP --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of l

RE: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Weaver, Walt
Ditto. I support Jared's backspace claims 100%, and I don't think he should be removed from the list. We're working on Linux (Red Hat and SUSE) and Solaris here, and we have this problem only on Linux. I've heard there are other operating systems out there besides Linux and Solaris. Is this true

Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
Anita, Thanks for clearing that up. I had seemed to recall that this was possible when someone asked about it, but all I could recall and/or find was CREATE OUTLINE. Probably one of those things I learned in 8i DBA class and forgot because I haven't used it. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 16:5

RE: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Weaver, Walt
FWIW, all those people who like to slam Oracle Support should pay special attention to Anita's posts. Cool stuff. --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana, USA -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 5/25/2001 6:50 PM Jared, Yes, DBMS_STATS can be used to move statist

FW: Transient Delivery Failure

2001-05-25 Thread Rajaram
Someone please do something about this... This stupid southampton address keep coming to my mail box... I hope its happening the same with the other listers Will anyone look at it and remove it? Rajaram (PS: the Failed message follows) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dumping tables using perl

2001-05-25 Thread David Turner
I sent email earlier and got some great suggestions on how to dump tables, but I had some questions. I would like my perl dump script to work on basically any table so I can send it out to everyone here when I'm done with it. However, say I have a table with a lob in it and I have know idea wh

Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread A. Bardeen
Jared, Yes, DBMS_STATS can be used to move statistics from one db to another for the SAME table/index. It's great for moving prod stats into a dev db for sql tuning. You can also use it to set specific values (e.g. to set NUM_ROWS to 100). You might want to check out the following doc on

Re: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Regina Harter
Well, it won't work in all cases, but I have on occasion used as a shortcut: INSERT INTO ... SELECT DISTINCT transaction_date, ... since the distinct will order it for you, beginning with the first item in the select. A more reliable way would be to use pl/sql, select the ordered data into a c

RE: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I quote "Apparently you again know what everybody else should do and think - which topic to discuss and which not." I find that comment insulting >From: "Hillman, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE:

RE: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Hillman, Alex
Try insert ... select* from (select * from order by ) Alex Hillman -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a transaction table in order of the date that the transac

Re: Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Diana_Duncan
Whyever would you want data inserted in order? There is no guarantee that Oracle will actually store the records "in order", there is no performance gain, and you can always retrieve the records in order by using an order by statement -- if you really need ordered data, you could use a index-org

Re: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
OK folks, let's take it offline, it's getting personal. Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet acc

thank you! -- RE: how to find out internal's password???

2001-05-25 Thread Janet Linsy
Yeah, that's the one !!! Thank all those who spent time on this. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > try this(on your dev box first): > 1.select instance_name from v$instance; > @command line, > 2.oradim80 -delete -sid > 3.oradim80 -new -sid (instance name> -intpwd > > > now you have a new

Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 13:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have no experience with this, but I think the package DBSTATS allows you > to export stats to a table and then import those stats back into the data > dictionary. I think outline perserves a query plan but ignores the dd > stats. > You're

Re: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 13:05, Deshpande, Kirti wrote: > Jared, > Is that something specific to Linux? > The other way (without the -V) works fine on HP-UX and AIX. > - Kirti Apparently so. I've two different brands/versions of linux, and I have to do this in both. Jared -- Please see the of

Creating a sorted table

2001-05-25 Thread Browett, Darren
We have un-ordered data in a table that needs to be inserted into a transaction table in order of the date that the transaction took place. Oracle does not allow "INSERT . AS SELECT . ORDER BY." or "CREATE TMP_TABLE . AS SELECT . ORDER BY.." Is there a method by which I

RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Christopher Spence
Long Live King Jared... -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 5/25/01 4:12 PM I would suggest that we discontinue this thread. It's pretty tame so far, but has a lot of potential for turning into an opportunity to bash others, and we don't need it. FYI Ste

RE: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Hillman, Alex
I do not see anything insulting in my post. If disagreement with you is an insult - it is your problem. I did not begin this thread but I was qurious why Steve was excluded from the list. I did not know about a thread on lazydba when I posted, but it does not matter. Alex Hillman -Original

What is going on this list? Take it easy and enjoy the weekend!

2001-05-25 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Regards, Waleed -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -

Re[2]: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread dgoulet
Jared & Jaques, This is one of 6 different mailing lists that I'm subscribed to (makes for a lot of spam in the mail box too). I do agree that this is the most informative, but also most raucous of all the lists which is why I'm still here, there be life here! Jared has my thanks for his ti

RE: OT: RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Hillman, Alex
Oracle charges for such guys 250-350 an hour and pay them 50-90K/year (15-20% bonus and 4 weeks of training per year). I would say that Oracle DBA knowing what he or she is doing can make more money in consulting. Alex Hillman PS. It would be very useful if US participants of this list post t

New Subscriber / Test Message - Please Ignore

2001-05-25 Thread George Hofilena
This is a test message. Please ignore. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: George Hofilena INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists

OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Ron Rogers
Banana or Vanilla cream??? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 02:12PM >>> Something else I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail on this topic. Maintaining a website, or a mailing list, is an arduous task that provides great benefits to many people at little or no cost to them. I have been a membe

Re:RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread Ron Rogers
When Chuck Speaks people listen! I couldn't resist the play on words. ROR mô¿ôm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 01:52PM >>> We like the troublemakers here!! Reply Separator Author: "Speaks; Chuck W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 5/25/2001 8:21 AM -- P

OT: my site is available

2001-05-25 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)
Hello list, I don't know this is the correct way. my site http://www.unal-bilisim.com is ready to launch. you can use my web based database products, post questions and answers about my products and Oracle products. regards... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com --

Re: OT: My bad

2001-05-25 Thread Brian_McQuillan
excellent "Speaks, Chuck W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@fatcity.com on 05/25/2001 12:57:47 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: I didn't mean to reply-all. That's my bad. Chuck Speaks, MCSE Dat

Re: list stats?

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
Dunno, never really cared. Bruce may know, email me privately if interested. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 10:28, Thater, William wrote: > OK, oh great list god, do we have the stats for who posts and what the top > subjects are? > > -- > Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA > Telergy

Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Chaim . Katz
I have no experience with this, but I think the package DBSTATS allows you to export stats to a table and then import those stats back into the data dictionary. I think outline perserves a query plan but ignores the dd stats. Chaim Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/25/2001 03:32:54 PM

RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Henry Poras
Title: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore... I think they run Metalink. Anyway i-dba sounds like something from an old Tarzan movie. i-dba u-pooh. -Original Message-From: Gary Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:27 PMTo: Multiple recipients o

Re: How many times has an index been used?

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
There is commercial software for determining this. www.teleran.com www.pinecone.com Both rather spendy. Jared On Thursday 24 May 2001 06:10, Wilkes, Steve wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to determine how many times an index has been used or > if it has been used at all? I have seen pre

RE: Odd core dump - possibly listener related

2001-05-25 Thread Henry Poras
We have also seen trace and alert logs occasionally written to $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/logs instead of bdump. It is almost always a shutdown abort/crash. Of course this isn't true for all aborts. Maybe when Oracle is in a hurry it uses its default instead of the non-default init.ora parameters. Henry

RE: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Alex, Are you deliberately trying to be insulting or is just an innate part of your personality? You are one of the people who complain about "off-topic" postings and tell people to stop posting on certain topics. Is this a right you reserve only for yourself? How is a discussion of what happ

Re: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
LOL!! Needed a good laugh, thanks. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 09:15, Thater, William wrote: > On Fri, 25 May 2001,Dennis Taylor scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > > ->At 04:55 PM 5/24/01 -0800, you wrote: > ->> > ->>That 'quote' isn't from Pooh at all, it's probably from Walt @#$$^^@

RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Bill Conner
> >As such, my site will be unavailable due to it's helpful nature. Please leave your site up. i liked it. >"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if >both are frozen." > >Christopher R. Spence >Oracle DBA >Fuelspot > > > >-Original Message- >Sent: Fri

Re: Odd core dump - possibly listener related

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
At a previous employer, if we chased down every core dump we would never have time for anything else. ORA-7445 almost always dumps core, and it's one of those errors that can never be successfully eradicated, at least in a large environment with many servers, many users and many different versio

RE: how to find out internal's password???

2001-05-25 Thread Sunil_Nookala
try this(on your dev box first): 1.select instance_name from v$instance; @command line, 2.oradim80 -delete -sid 3.oradim80 -new -sid (instance name> -intpwd now you have a new password for internal. Sunil Nookala Dell Corporation, Austin, TX -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 20

RE: Resolved!! Another Downed Database

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Laura, Wow !! You are on a roll here.. Congratulations! Pl Keep all those steps documented. Before you know it, you will be proudly helping out someone else. Well Done.. - Kirti Deshpande Verizon Information Services http://www.superpages.com > -Original Message- > From: Burto

Re: OT: My bad

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Chuck, no, actually it's not your bad. This list is set up such that a "reply" in most mail programs will reply only to the list. It was done deliberately I believe, to see if the duplication of messages could be eliminated when people WANT to reply to the list. Takes some learning curve tim

Re: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Jacques, thank you for saying that so elegantly. Members of this list who are also on lazydba should confine their discussion to that list. And if you don't know the players, it's not fair to beat up on someone. I happen to know both of them. My only comment is: I hope that they can work this

Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 01:05, Saurabh Sharma wrote: > i feel this is at the full database export level. > once u export ur database, u can import it as it is into another database > and it'll create allthe required definitions for u. > the statistics are exported with the tablespace and table defin

RE: Bad SQL.....

2001-05-25 Thread Rajaram
Remember - Drink responsibly - Kidding. Raj. -Original Message- From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:RE: Bad SQL. Thank you very much. I was thinking that I needed to do

Re: Database Trigger Confusion

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Thursday 24 May 2001 10:51, Yexley Robert D SSgt AFIT/SCA wrote: > CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER endb.budget_total_amt_hist_trg > BEFORE UPDATE of total_amt_auth, expiration on endb.budget ^ Time to Read the Fine Manual.

RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Henry Poras
Title: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore... I was just reading 'Oracle 9i New Features: Summary' which I downloaded from OTN. One great line was "New features, tools and techniques are also provided to make what little an administrator has left to do a delight."   Henry -Orig

RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread DBarbour
And perhaps apply for a job as Corporate Philosopher? David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002 "Thater,

Re:OT: RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread dgoulet
Yosi, I interviewed for one of those jobs here in Boston, MA. Although there was one VERY good individual in the bunch I was a little perplexed by the others. Most were very junior and had not been in an outside shop before, one was straight out of school and bootcamp and only one had done

Re: how to find out internal's password???

2001-05-25 Thread Chaim . Katz
I think you said this was on NT? Use (administrative tools, user manager) and add yourself to the ORA_DBA group. Then you can CONNECT / as SYSDBA without specifying a password. CONNECT INTERNAL. will probably also work without a password, although its syntax is depreciated, I know it works at

Re: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Ron Rogers
If the i-DBA team walks the walk and talks the talk and convinces your damagement to "let them house your database needs" then they can provide full attention to it and have it running as "smooth and reliable as Metal-slink" Read all of the fine and super-fine print and don't forget to threat,

RE: Bad SQL.....

2001-05-25 Thread Regina Harter
At 11:25 AM 5/25/01 -0800, you wrote: >Thank you very much. I was thinking that I needed to do a nested select. >It worked great. I'll have a beer for you after I leave work! :) > >Dave Thanks Dave! Can you have some chocolate for me too? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.

Sql Performance

2001-05-25 Thread Valiveru, Siva
Gurus, Will there be any performance gain by going for query1 instead of query2. Query1: select col1,col2, col3,..col2n from tab; Query2: select * from tab; Thanks, SIva -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Valiveru, Siva INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat

Re: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
Ron, I see that you have received a number of emails suggesting that you use 'stty erase '. Unfortunately, that is not quite correct. I have experienced the same problem on both of my Linux boxes, and have found that even though the backspace is set correctly at the unix command line, it does

Re: BUNYAMIN POSTS HAVE A VIRUS

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
I didn't see the apology until the next day. Since he hadn't replied to my personal email on the matter, he was unsubscribed. He's since been re-subscribed. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 06:51, Burton, Laura L. wrote: > Didn't he send an email to the list yesterday apologizing for this and > s

Re: Script to compare two schemas

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Thursday 24 May 2001 17:20, Helmut Daiminger wrote: > Does anybody out there have a script to compare to database schemas and > list the differences? I'm forwarding a post I made on this topic a few days ago. Jared -- Forwarded Message -- Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:44:53 -0

Re: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
I would suggest that we discontinue this thread. It's pretty tame so far, but has a lot of potential for turning into an opportunity to bash others, and we don't need it. FYI Steve Adams has not been removed from this list. To get removed from this list requires quite a bit of effort on your p

Re: Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 10:52, Jeremiah Wilton wrote: > Things that can weight the decision on the side of standby: > - Frequent DDL changes - requires outage for MM rep. ... This email is a keeper! > > Anyone in Seattle want to get together for beers? I'll drag the other > Amazon DBAs along, if

Resolved!! Another Downed Database

2001-05-25 Thread Burton, Laura L.
Title: Resolved!! Another Downed Database I wanted to let everyone know that my (un)archived, no cold backup database is now up!!  I took Oracle's advice and started with the full physical backup and did not apply the differential backup.  I then entered Recover Database and when the messsage

RE: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Hillman, Alex
Why not - looks like to discuss this on that other list is a good way to be excluded from that list (not that it will be a big loss). Apparently you again know what everybody else should do and think - which topic to discuss and which not. Alex Hillman -Original Message- Sent: Friday, M

Re: Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 25 May 2001 10:52, Jeremiah Wilton wrote: > Things that can weight the decision on the side of standby: > - Frequent DDL changes - requires outage for MM rep. Argh!!! I sent my previous reply to *everyone*. I *hate* when that happens. I was a long time Pine user and am still not use

OT: Learning by Fire

2001-05-25 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)
Title: Resolved!! Another Downed Database > I know you learn more 'by fire', but I think I am going to go home now and sit under the spinkler I was in a job interview a few years ago, and the interviewer asked me to tell him about one of my big successes.  Stumped.  I told him I could

RE: Bad SQL.....

2001-05-25 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Thank you very much. I was thinking that I needed to do a nested select. It worked great. I'll have a beer for you after I leave work! :) Dave -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's just Friday. You need to rewrit

Re: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
Thank you Jacques, for your posts on this topic. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 11:12, Jacques Kilchoer wrote: > Something else I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail on this topic. > > Maintaining a website, or a mailing list, is an arduous task that provides > great benefits to many people at

RE: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Jared, Is that something specific to Linux? The other way (without the -V) works fine on HP-UX and AIX. - Kirti > -Original Message- > From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 2:26 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: back

RE: OT: My bad

2001-05-25 Thread Speaks, Chuck W.
SWEET! I always wanted to be the weakest link! GOODBYE Chuck Speaks, MCSE Database Administrator Lithonia Lighting 770-922-9000 x3450 http://www.lithonia.com -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I call for your immediate remo

OT: RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Gene Sais
>From experience, I have used consultants from Oracle. The 1st one sent was right out >of DBA school. We sent him back after 1 week. At that time, Oracle didn't allow you >to interview their DBA's. According to Oracle, they were all good. The 2nd DBA >Oracle sent had only NT experience, ne

Re: OT: My bad

2001-05-25 Thread Jim Hawkins
I call for your immediate removal from this list. We do not tolerate mistakes. Goodbye - you are the weakest link! Just kidding...welcome. Jim > I didn't mean to reply-all. That's my bad. > > Chuck Speaks, MCSE > Database Administrator > Lithonia Lighting > 770-922-9000 x3450 > http://w

RE:OT: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread DBarbour
Mike, "It's easier"?? Okay, some things are less complicated, but there are so many more things, I end up studying this stuff nearly every night. David A. Barbour Oracle DBA, OCP AISD 512-414-1002

Re: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
Steve, I see that you were successful in getting this to work, but thought I might add to it just a bit. I've moved that system from one box to another before, with the addition of changing the SID and DB name. You may not want to do that for some reason, but it just involves 3 other steps:

recovery

2001-05-25 Thread Raghu Kota
Hi Friends I want to test my recovery on full backup on sunday, so My backup will be completed on sunday 9am, Iam recovering at 10.30, Then If I restore my full backup including operating system, So between 9-10.30am as Iam restoring from 9am backup, its going to overwrite the online redo's is

RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Yes, I'm confused as well about this. I hope Steve that you will use Jared's list as your sanctuary... : ) Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch

RE: Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Nancy McCormick
I too have had the wonderful experience of supporting multi-master replication. We had 3 sites and there was a lot of work maintaining it. I have not had the opportunity to implement a standby-database yet but from talking with those who have setting up and maintaining a standy-by database would

OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal Something else I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail on this topic. Maintaining a website, or a mailing list, is an arduous task that provides great benefits to many people at little or no cost to them. I have been a member of the ORACLE-L list (with g

RE: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name

2001-05-25 Thread Steve McClure
Thanks All. My test was also successful. I had planned on two different aliases in tnsnames.ora. Otherwise I would be doomed to failure. I will implement the differing passwords idea though. Thanks again. Hey that is two in a row, where I was pretty much right, but needed a little confirmatio

RE: how to find out internal's password???

2001-05-25 Thread Morton, Ronald D
Janet, The default password for SYS is CHANGE_ON_INSTALL. Maybe you will be lucky and find that nobody changed it. If you are running 8.1.x, then try logging in through sqlplus as follows: sqlplus internal If you get in, then change the SYS password to something you want: ALTER USER SYS IDEN

how to find out internal's password???

2001-05-25 Thread Janet Linsy
This is in additional to my previous question about how to turn off passowrd for internal: To try to turn off pwd for internal, I commented out remote_login_passwordfile = exclusive in the init file, now I need to shutdown and restart the database. I tried to login as internal to shutdown the db

RE: how to turn off password prompt in NT???

2001-05-25 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I don't know if it works, but with Oracle7 it was possible to bypass the internal password when logged in at the console. You have go to into the registry, though: Start | Run | regedit HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE Create a new value of string type: DBA_SID_AUTHORIZATION [don't enter "S

RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread Speaks, Chuck W.
Sounds pretty standard. Chuck Speaks, MCSE Database Administrator Lithonia Lighting 770-922-9000 x3450 http://www.lithonia.com -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We have one little rule that most folks follow pretty well.

RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Yosi
I was once one of those superior i-dba consultants. I was pretty good, and as with this list, some of my colleagues were amazingly talented, knowledgable and great to work with. Others were, well, others. It's lots of fun to ridicule, disparage, deride, belittle, and mock Oracle Consulting, and d

RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread PD Miller
I've just spent most of today repairing damage left at a site by some of Oracle's 'superior' consultants! At 8:27 -0800 25/5/01, Gary Weber wrote: >Far as their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different >people from the ones you get on first line of Support... Cheers Paul Miller

RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William
On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -> ->Tigger is indeed a child. Maybe I should aspire to Tigger instead of Pooh? -> ->Pooh is a bear of very little brain, but enormous practicality He is the uncarved block of Tao. -- Bill Thater Certifiab

RE: Bad SQL.....

2001-05-25 Thread Jack C. Applewhite
Dave, You need to use a subquery in your Where clause: .. WHERE available_power.driver_id = (Select manpowerprofile.mpp_id From manpowerprofile Where manpowerprofile.mpp_terminationdt <> TO_DATE('31-DEC-2049','DD-MON-') ) Jack Jack C. App

Re: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Terry Ball
I passed Gary's e-mail around the office and we all had a good laugh. Our consensus was; the support Oracle already provides, our DB's would be down for ages every time there was a problem and the solution would be to recreate the DB. Terry Gary Weber wrote: > Very stupid thing to do by Oracl

RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Rodd Holman
One thing their service doesn't cover. Meetings!! As a DBA I am always called into various project meetings to discuss things like design, optimization, hardware (we are SA/DBA's here), and other things realted to this. What does oracle propse for that? Oh I know hire their consulting serv

Re: Another Database Down

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still
Interesting stuff about 'fuzzy' SCN's and files. A couple of notes on MetaLink with pertinent information: 22956.1 1015544.102 The second one has the added benefit of making clear why your database should be shut down cleanly before taking a cold backup. Jared On Friday 25 May 2001 07:46, J

Re:RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread dgoulet
We like the troublemakers here!! Reply Separator Author: "Speaks; Chuck W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 5/25/2001 8:21 AM Sounds great. I am a Lazy DBA refugee and I must say that I like the tone and banter on this list a lot better. I'll be talking

RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Christopher Spence
If you know why it was done, it makes sense. It isn't brilliant or moral, but makes sense given the mentality. "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen." Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Nuno Souto
They conveniently forget that most of the tasks of many DBAs consist in responding to requests from developers that need to be actioned immediately, not via telephone or e-mails. But then again, their "superior" support staff should be able to "proactively" predict these? ;-) Sounds like anoth

RE: Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Walter K
Thank you for your excellent feedback. And, thank you for reminding me that replication requires quiescing the databases for DDL changes! :-( Ughh, as soon as I read that I quickly remembered spending late nights doing application upgrades from 2 years ago and the hassle I had to go through becaus

list stats?

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William
OK, oh great list god, do we have the stats for who posts and what the top subjects are? -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ You gotta program like you don't need the money, You gotta compile

Re: Bad SQL.....

2001-05-25 Thread Regina Harter
I think it's just Friday. You need to rewrite your statement to read something like this: UPDATE AVAILABLE_POWER SET available_power_driver_terminated = 'Y' where available_power.driver_id in (select manpowerprofile.mpp_id from manpowerprofile where manpowerprofile.mpp_terminationdt <> to_date

RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William
On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -> ->but he's ORANGE!!! At least Eeyore is a decent shade of blue :) Sorry. -- Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~

Memories but not forgotten.

2001-05-25 Thread Garner, John (NESL-IT)
Leaving the lazy DBA list is a shame after a couple of years lurking... The pastures are look greener on the fatcity side of the fence... I think I'll stretch my legs :o) E mail Disclaimer Yo

RE: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Try the command stty erase to set 'erase' to the appropriate key sequence for your term type before starting sqlplus session (or use SQL>!stty erase from within SQL). HTH, - Kirti Deshpande Verizon Information Services http://www.superpages.com > -Original Message- > From: Ron

RE: Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Things that can weight the decision on the side of standby: - Frequent DDL changes - requires outage for MM rep. - Very high rate of DML - MM rep may fall behind. - High latency network - MM rep may fall behind - Allowable failover time is over 10 minutes. - Losing the last few minutes of transact

OT: My bad

2001-05-25 Thread Speaks, Chuck W.
I didn't mean to reply-all. That's my bad. Chuck Speaks, MCSE Database Administrator Lithonia Lighting 770-922-9000 x3450 http://www.lithonia.com -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:56 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sounds pretty standard. Chuck Speaks, MCSE Database Adm

RE: Impugning LazyDBA

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Ross
Well put, and "Amen". Let's leave others alone. Especially if they are not able to properly defend themselves. It would be like throwing Christians to the lions. And that's not sporting. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORAC

RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Eric D. Pierce
removing Steve Adams from any Oracle list would be completely stupid. what happened on lazydba? regards, ep On 25 May 2001, at 2:16, Robertson Lee - lerobe wrote: Date sent: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:05 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECT

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