RE: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Thomas Day
How will you make sure that there are no active segments in your current rollback segments before you remove the datafiles with the OS? Even after you take the rollback segments off-line, Oracle will continue to use them as long as they have an active segment. BTW --- One way to help to avoid th

Re: index rebuild

2003-07-23 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!   For index, yes, if you use: alter index rebuild compute statistics;   But don't rebuild your indexes daily, it's an expensive operation... and you won't gain much from it anyway.   Tanel. - Original Message - From: AK To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Se

RE: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Guang Mei
I see. Thanks. Guang -Original Message- DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Guang Yes, I noticed that after I posted my reply. Typically if this was a production system I would tend to create new rollback segments, online t

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Ron Rogers
Robert, Be proud. 37 and published. very good work. Ron >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/03 01:34PM >>> Well I *AM* 37, and I don't feel old. I'm actually the youngest DBA in my group, and it seems like I'm always the youngest wherever I go... Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipi

Re: index rebuild

2003-07-23 Thread Joan Hsieh
Ak, I just know you can collect statistics while creating index not rebuild index. Joan > AK wrote: > > Does index rebuild generates new statistics as well ? How does that > can hit performance intermediately if I want to rebuild few indexes > daily just to finish everything in 5 days . > > -a

RE: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Guang Yes, I noticed that after I posted my reply. Typically if this was a production system I would tend to create new rollback segments, online the new segments, offline the old segments, then change the init.ora. Sometime later I would drop the old segments and tablespace, maybe after a back

Re: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! The reason might be performance when rollback segments grow and shrink if optimal is set. (Of course if your RB segments are tuned well enough, that they won't ever grow or shrink, then DMT isn't an issue) If you do the change in two passes as you described, which leave the same names for RB

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: dba age Dude, I am 37 and the OLDEST Oracle DBA here... only one DBA older in the company! April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas You will recognize your own path when you come upon it, because you will suddenly have all the energy and imaginatio

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Wow, I remember UFI, iapgen and RPT/RPF, but I started in 1989. Do you remember SQLPME?   Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Michael Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:44 PMTo: Multiple

index rebuild

2003-07-23 Thread AK
Does index rebuild generates new statistics as well ? How does that can hit performance intermediately if I want to rebuild few indexes daily just to finish everything in 5 days .   -ak

RE: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Guang Mei
Do I need to? I thought after all the steps I still have the same rollback segment names (RBS01-06). The only difference is they will be in LMT now. Guang -Original Message- DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Guang - Don't for

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I was born on 1/10/1961 in Zagreb, Croatia, which makes me 42 years of age. My horoscope sign is Ursus (6'4", 260 lbs, used to do greko-roman wrestling, I can still run 5 miles and lift myself on a chin-up bar). People sometimes confuse my age with the answer to certain question from the Doglas Ada

RE: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Guang Mei
Yes, I can. But I want to call this tablespace RBS because I use this name in all my other dbs. Just try to be consistent with naming convension. Guang -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Why are you conve

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Anderson, Brian
I claim 36, making me the youngest DBA here. Of course, myself is the oldest DBA here at 36. And I is the average of our ages. Me, myself, and I work pretty well together, if you ignore all the arguments. > -Original Message- > From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:

RE: Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread Josh Collier
If there is no evidence in the alert log, and no backups/file copies/incarnations are registered in rman, my bet is that the database isn't backed up.-Original Message-From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:50 AMTo: Multiple recipients of lis

Re: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Jared . Still
Why are you converting an RBS tablespace? If just an exercise, it's understandable. If for a production database, just create a new tablespace, new rollback segments, and then drop the old ones. Jared "Guang Mei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/2003 10:24 AM Please

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Kline
Let's see... I remember dirt.. I remember UFI>. I remember version 4.1.0 that ran on DOS... PC, PC-XT.. Oracle since 1983...   Good loaded question.   Maks. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Goulet, DickSent: Wednesday, July 23, 2

RE: Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Kline
They are using RAID5, not mirroring, and the database, for all the bigger it is needs some SERIOUS tuning. There are procs that are taking over 1 million disk i/o's to post a move in inventory.. Again, NOTHING in the alert log, just runs and runs, no alter tablespace, just redo log changes. And n

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread M Rafiq
Tanel, Thanks. Frankly speaking I have no idea about 'Hitchhikers Guide To Galaxy book' , however, 42 is a favorite/magic figure on this list. I think, Jared, now may be getting frustrated with this OFF-topic discussion so no further response from my side.. Sorry Jared. Regards Rafiq Re

RE: convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Guang - Don't forget to update your init.ora! Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi: I need to convert RBS tablespace (used for rollback segments)

RE: Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Kline
I was afraid of that -- Performing Remote Agent backup Media Name: "Media created 7/18/2003 08:00:06 PM" Backup of "\\FAILSAFE\V$ " Backup set #11 on storage media #1 Backup set description: "DailyBackup" Backup Type: FULL -

RE: Re[2]: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Purcell, Sandra
exactly... now, i have to say, there is the option to round up/down when necessary depending on how many gray hairs are showing through the hair color application and available room lighting... -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2003 12:15 To: Multiple recipients of list ORAC

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Odland, Brad
I'm 94   I started working with Oracle back in the late thirties on the Rexall "Wonder-Math" Mechanical Computing Device. Writing SQL with a machine not unlike a player piano, we did, for hours on end, then we would feed the boxes of program reels into the Wonder-Math and stand with oiler c

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Well I *AM* 37, and I don't feel old. I'm actually the youngest DBA in my group, and it seems like I'm always the youngest wherever I go... Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 7/23/2003 12:14 PM King Arthur: "Old woman!" Dennis: "Man." KA: "Sorry.

convert RBS tablespace from DMT to LMT (Oracle 8173) steps?

2003-07-23 Thread Guang Mei
Hi: I need to convert RBS tablespace (used for rollback segments) from DMT to LMT on a 24x7 production machine (Solaris 2.8, Oracle 8173). Here are the steps I am thinking of taking: 1. create a new rbslmt tablespace 2. create new rollback segments (RBSlmt01, RBSlmt02, ... RBSlmt 06) in rbslmt t

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Thanks for the compliment :) But I'm still complete loser compared to some other guys here, so there's much work to be done. I think the "42" might very well come from the Hitchhikers Guide To Galaxy book, if you know what I mean ;) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipien

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
DBAs are at an intersection, the place where all the data is stored! Eveyrone wants the DBA to do something for them... and it's never fast enough. : ) Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Netwo

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Jesse, Rich
King Arthur: "Old woman!" Dennis: "Man." KA: "Sorry. Old man! Whose castle is that?" D: "I'm 37!" KA: "What?" D: "I'm 37, I'm not old!" KA: "Well, I can't just call you 'man'." D: "Well, you could say 'Dennis'." KA: "I didn't know you were called Dennis." D: "You never bothered to find out, did you

Re[2]: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Robert Eskridge
So, your answer is 51.667? Sounds about right. -rje P> chronologically i'm 50 P> mentally i'm 15 P> physically i'm 90 P> -Original Message- P> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2003 10:55 P> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L P> Now this one is difficult folks .. P> what is average a

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Ron Thomas
42. And missing a few "experience" fingers... Ron Thomas Hypercom, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan

RE: Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread Sarnowski, Chris
Can "they" point to backup sets from which you can test recovery? As someone else mentioned, that's the crucial issue. There are a couple of possibilities: Veritas can do volume mirroring, for example. I haven't used this at the Veritas level but we do something similar on our Hitachi SAN (to gen

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread M Rafiq
Tanel. I am personally impressed with your pratical knowledge, based on your responses to this list. Mostly DBA's particpating on this list is 35+ (may in the range of 40-45). Only one DBA is 42 years old for the last 5 years. Guess who Gogala Mladen(don't shoot me as I am your fan). That is hi

Re: Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you don't have backups. Oracle will only support recovery from hot backups taken when the tablespaces are not flagged as in backup mode if you do the backup via RMAN. Technically, if you are very very lucky, the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter has aligned with Mars, you *MIGHT* be able to

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Ron Rogers
Mladen, Where were you in your previous life? You know, the one where there was all of the aged wisdom. I did a google search on Mladen Gogala Interesting site showed up. Some are listed as 403 forbidden. Ron >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/03 12:29PM >>> I'm only thilteen. Mladen Gogala Or

Re: Securing the Database Structure

2003-07-23 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi It isn't possible to hide the structure of the database successfully, as your customers DBA will access the database and can query its structure - tables, indexes, constraints etc from the dictionary and work out how quite a lot of your tables interact. That said if you want to make it difficul

Re: How to tell if a given session is coming across a db link?

2003-07-23 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Thomas Have a look at V$SESSION_CONNECT_INFO, which shows details of the network connection of current sessions. This might help you. Kind regards Pete -- Pete Finnigan email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web site: http://www.petefinnigan.com - Oracle security audit specialists Book:Oracle security step

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
For an apricot, I am old. For a head of lettuce, even more so. But for a mountain I am not even begun in years. However, for a man I am just right. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]It will make sense when you stop thinking logically,and start thinking Oracle-ly  -  Jim Dr

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Purcell, Sandra
chronologically i'm 50 mentally i'm 15 physically i'm 90 -Original Message-From: AK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2003 10:55 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: dba age Now this one is difficult folks ..   what is average age of an e

Re[2]: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Robert Eskridge
I think that a typical DBA ages so fast that simple measuring techniques are suspect -rje J> insert into dba_tbl values('41'); <--- thats mine J> do this for all of the "experienced" dbas J> select avg(age) from dba_tbl; J> :) J> joe J> AK wrote: >> Now this one is difficult folks .

RE: script

2003-07-23 Thread Stephen Lee
For something a little different, play with the attached free.sql script. -Original Message- where can i find a script to find segments which can't extend due to low of space in tablespace . -ak free.sql Description: Binary data

RE: Securing the Database Structure

2003-07-23 Thread Jesse, Rich
Coming from the perspective of one who has needed to get to a DB structure of a purchased app, you might have some luck using obfuscation. Ever try to reverse engineer an 800-table schema with no RI? It can be done (we've done it), but with the help of the app source. One other 3rd-party app has

RE: Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Michael Don't discount the possibility that they are just using Veritas to back up everything on the Oracle server. Not correct, but I've seen people that know nothing about Oracle do that. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
AK - Don't fear, you may feel young now, but working as a DBA ages you really fast. The other day the discussion drifted into chopping fingers for making mistakes. Before safety couplings were adopted, the experience of railroad brakemen was judged by the number of fingers missing. Maybe we should

RE: DB_BLOCK_SIZE??? Survey.

2003-07-23 Thread M Rafiq
I fully agree with Dennis. Even some applications like Oracle Finanacials 11i requires that min db_block size should be 8K. About 32K size, may be some OS not support that size but 16K is much better for OLAP environment and we have been using 8K for OLAT and 16K for OLAP/DSS. Regards Rafiq R

Veritas like RMAN?

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Kline
I found no signs of RMAN being used in any way shape or form...   I've been told they are doing "hot" backups using Veritas... HOWEVER, the alert log shows no signs what so ever of "alter tablespace xyz begin/end backup"...   Can it do a good backup backing up live DB files and leaving

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)
...and young enough to go ahead and do it anyway! Woooh! -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L simple answer: old enough to know better :) --- "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that's a LOADED question w

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread April Wells
10G   April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas You will recognize your own path when you come upon it, because you will suddenly have all the energy and imagination you will ever need. ~ Jerry Gillies ~ -Original Message-From: Goulet, Dick [mailto

Re: script

2003-07-23 Thread Joan Hsieh
AK, this is a very old script. set pagesize 999 spool extent.lst ttitle 'Database Objects that will have Trouble Throwing Extents' column owner format a10; column segment_name format a22; column segment_type format a10; column tablespace_name format a14; column next_extent format 999,999,999;

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Ron Rogers
We all know that the universal answer that requires a number is ...42 I just had my 58th. Gray hair, kids, grand kids and 7 years from retirement. Ron >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/03 11:54AM >>> Now this one is difficult folks .. what is average age of an experienced oracle dba ? -ak -- Please

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Gudmundur Josepsson
> what is average age of an experienced oracle dba 42? Þessi póstur var sendur með vefpósti mi, http://www.mi.is -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gudmundur Josepsson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fa

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael
simple answer: old enough to know better :) --- "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that's a LOADED question which I'm sure many a individual on this > list will resist answering. > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -Original Message- >

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Gogala, Mladen
I'm only thilteen.   Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: AK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: dba age Now this one is difficult folks

RE: Securing the Database Structure

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hussain I think Joe and Dick both make excellent points. The key to understanding your product probably doesn't lie with your database structure. Most vendors do this well enough just by having obscurely named tables and columns. Most sites buy Oracle because they expect to use it on an enterpri

script

2003-07-23 Thread AK
where can i find a script to find segments which can't extend due to low of space in tablespace .   -ak

RE: logon trigger to start tracing

2003-07-23 Thread Paul Baumgartel
--- "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > > remember it is a trigger ... so it runs under executing user's privs > ... > > 1. everyone needs a direct grant for execute on dbms_session Been there. > 2. there needs to be a public synonym for dbms_session Done that. > 3.

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Stephane Paquette
Experience can be tricky, I know experienced DBA and developpers with a lot of years of experience and they're still junior in my mind, they're almost at the same level as when they started with Oracle.   On the other hands, I know some people who have been DBA for 3 years and are very very

Re: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Joe Testa
insert into dba_tbl values('41'); <--- thats mine do this for all of the "experienced" dbas select avg(age) from dba_tbl; :) joe AK wrote: Now this one is difficult folks .. what is average age of an experienced oracle dba ? -ak -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Manageme

RE: dba age

2003-07-23 Thread Goulet, Dick
Now that's a LOADED question which I'm sure many a individual on this list will resist answering.   Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message-From: AK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list

RE: DB_BLOCK_SIZE??? Survey.

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Syed The statement I received from an Oracle instructor is that the ability to handle blocks of a different size are in 9i for one purpose and one purpose only -- so you can bring a transportable tablespace from another database. Specifically, if you have databases with several block sizes you w

RE: Securing the Database Structure

2003-07-23 Thread Goulet, Dick
Hussain, As someone who has to support third party, purchased applications it is my firm belief that you want to make this as transparent as possible. Why, because no data system purchased today will operate in a vacuum. They have to be integrated into the remainder of the application

Re: How to tell if a given session is coming across a db link?

2003-07-23 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! I would look at program column in v$session... it should show oracle or something similar there if the connection is initiated by another Oracle server. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:39 PM

RE: trace for error number

2003-07-23 Thread Ehresmann, David
Ok, use this I found on metalink: event="1722 trace name errorstack level 3" what about the level 3? What are my options here? thanks. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L List, I need to trace for a specific Oracle err

RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Stephane Paquette
>From past experiences, the only client I've seen using 9iAS is the one being Oracle wall to wall (and Oracle was a partner in the business, a big bio-tech startup). All the other clients running on Oracle databases were using BEA Weblogic or IBM Websphere. Stephane Paquette Administrateur de bas

dba age

2003-07-23 Thread AK
Now this one is difficult folks ..   what is average age of an experienced oracle dba ?   -ak

Re: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Alessandro Guimarães
Hi,   The Oracle http server (OHS) is a collection of three distinct feature sets.    1 - Web Server based on the proven Apache technology. It also provides support for WebDAV, with Oracle9iDB as a backing store. The Proxy Plug-In component allows Oracle9iAS to be used with other web servers

Re: trace for error number

2003-07-23 Thread Joan Hsieh
David, You can try this, I think. -joan alter session set events '1722 trace name systemstate level 10'; "Ehresmann, David" wrote: > > List, > > I need to trace for a specific Oracle error number, ORA-01722. Any > suggestions would be appreciated. > > thanks, > > David Ehresmann > -- > P

Re: trace for error number

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
David, This comes with the usual caveats (contact oracle support, don't do this without testing, some fading may occur, objects in the rear view mirror are larger than they appear)... On error dumps are pretty straight forward. If you can reproduce the error in a session, just se

Re: possible to set continuation prompt in sql*plus?

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Building on Jacques' solution, here is one that aligns all the statements nice and neat. Of course, it does not have the username/instance, so I don't know how acceptable it is select ' 1 ' as new_prompt from dual / set sqlprompt "&new_sqlprompt" 1 select 1, 2 2, 3 3, 4 4,

How to tell if a given session is coming across a db link?

2003-07-23 Thread Thomas Jeff
I have a task to pull v$session info from various databases and insert into a history table. I'd like to exclude those sessions that are connected to a database via a db link. Is there an easy way to identify such sessions? Thanks. Jeffery D Th

RE: DB_BLOCK_SIZE??? Survey.

2003-07-23 Thread Syed Ahmed
Hi Chris, Be default Oracle 9i create database with 4k block_size ,you can choose differently types of block_size on tablespace level. You may like to look into tablespace block_sizes. I have a 4 k block size in one of our production database but it allows me to have different block size on tables

RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan I'm no Java expert and am willing to be corrected. My understanding is that Apache is just a web page server. The better comparison is between Tomcat and 9iAS. Since most web hits are for just static pages, you may even chose to have Apache front-end your 9iAS. Over Tomcat, 9iAS is J2E

RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling

2003-07-23 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling nope ... at-least not yet. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinio

Re: Securing the Database Structure

2003-07-23 Thread Joe Testa
I wouldnt be concerned with hiding the db structure, look at peopleslop(aka peoplesoft), the structure is there for all to see but how its implemented is all on program code, yes you can eventually figure out how its all related(took me 6 months on one of the versions but I figured out all of t

trace for error number

2003-07-23 Thread Ehresmann, David
List, I need to trace for a specific Oracle error number, ORA-01722. Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks, David Ehresmann -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ehresmann, David INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-50

RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Goulet, Dick
Dennis, I've heard the "not getting locked into one vendor" idea before. It happens to be the mantra from our current CIO. Problem is then that you have vendors pointing fingers at the other guys when something goes wrong. Previous place I worked was ALL DEC from the ground up. Some

RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling

2003-07-23 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling Igor,   you are right ... as a unwritten policy we don't allow windows databases ... even for crash test dummies ...   Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views exp

Clarification sought regarding configuring two-node Oracle9i RAC on RH Linux AS 2.1

2003-07-23 Thread Ranganath K
Hi Listers,       I am trying to configure a two-node Oracle9i RAC on Redhat Linux AS 2.1.  I have 2 network cards in each node.  Oracle doc. says that one of the network cards has to be on a public network and the other network card on a private network each configured with stati

DB_BLOCK_SIZE??? Survey.

2003-07-23 Thread Grabowy, Chris
I just started at my new DBA job, and I have been reviewing their database installation procedure. I noticed that they create all their databases with a 4K block size. This is for Oracle 9.2 on AIX 5.2. It has been my general understanding that most sites these days use 8K db_block_size as a

RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling

2003-07-23 Thread Garry Gillies
> 1. have you tried select to_char(sysdate,'D') from dual ?? Yes, and it works fine on MY servers, but the docs say that the value returned depends on your NLS_TERRITORY setting. I am trying to get it to work for everybody. > This is really nice, but my only gripe with dbms-job is that is isn't

RE: logon trigger to start tracing

2003-07-23 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: logon trigger to start tracing Paul, remember it is a trigger ... so it runs under executing user's privs ... 1. everyone needs a direct grant for execute on dbms_session 2. there needs to be a public synonym for dbms_session 3. yell "Bingo!" Raj

Re: logon trigger to start tracing

2003-07-23 Thread Paul Baumgartel
That's it! Thanks...sometimes I forget that a trigger is a stored object, too. Regards, --- Wolfgang Breitling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The logon user needs to have granted "alter session" privileges > directly to > her, not just through a role. = Paul Baumgartel Transcentive, Inc. w

Re: Timestamps in trace files

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Gudmundur, Where is this documented (so I can RTFM)? The one piece of this I don't quite understand is that the timestamp is not emitted twice in a row. If the long time is the triggering event, why do I see a gap of 90 minutes (in another trace file)? Daniel Gudmundur Bjarni Jo

Securing the Database Structure

2003-07-23 Thread Hussain Ahmed Qadri
Hi all, When you develop a software and you intend to sell it, are there any ways of saving your database structure. Because obviously we don't give the fmb's, we only give the executable. But to run the software we need to have the database and there are ways by which the database structure can

RE: logon trigger to start tracing

2003-07-23 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Oracle9i 9.2.0.3.0, O7_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY is FALSE. --- Jacques Kilchoer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What database version? What is your setting for > O7_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY? > I tried the following in an 8.1.7 database with > O7_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY = FALSE > > create user x iden

RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling

2003-07-23 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling Raj,   You must be speaking from “UNIX heights” -J Under Windows I find dbms_job much more reliable than windows “at” scheduling. Actually, never had problems with dbms_job “forgetting” to run a job.   Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED]    

Quick RMAN Verfication question

2003-07-23 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: Quick RMAN Verfication question I believe you can setup an RMAN Recovery Catalog within a database on a UNIX platform, which will back up a DB on Win2k.  But I've never set it up this way.  So basically, my question is, Is anyone else doing this right now? how well does it work for you?

Re: SQL question : How to retrieve the File_name without Directorie P

2003-07-23 Thread Daniel Fink
Phillipe, Look at using INSTR and SUBSTR to calculate the position of the last / and work from there. Daniel > "NGUYEN Philippe (Cetelem)" wrote: > > Hi Gurus! > a very simple problem for You :I just want to retrieve the .dbf name from file_name > column in dba_data_files. > eg :'/orac

Re: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread Ryan
what functionality does 9iAS give you over just running apache? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:59 AM > Ryan >My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface. The > others look pre

RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling

2003-07-23 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: DBMS_JOB scheduling Garry, 1. have you tried select to_char(sysdate,'D') from dual ?? This is really nice, but my only gripe with dbms-job is that is isn't reliable ... it wasn't in 9ir1 on aix and we didn't even look at it in 9ir2. in 9ir1 dbms_job used to _forget_ to run jobs

RE: DB_BLOCK_LRU_LATCHES , multiple buffer pools , oracle9i

2003-07-23 Thread Hallas, John, Tech Dev
Not sure what exactly you are asking here but one way of sizing the multiple buffer pools is to look at V$DB_CACHE_ADVICE view. The following is from the 9i performance tuning manual V$DB_CACHE_ADVICE can be used to size all pools configured on an instance. Make the initial cache size estimate,

RE: backwards export

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Jeroen I haven't done this specific export/import. Hopefully someone who has will respond. The usual prescription is to use the exp binary from the older Oracle version to export the data. The layout of the data files changed between Oracle 7 and Oracle 8, but did not change from 8 to 9, so you

RE: RE: Antw: SQL question : How to retrieve the File_name

2003-07-23 Thread Guido Konsolke
Hi Igor, yes, it is. But it would be better if we all swallow the use of the builtin functions. My weaknesses are with analytic functions. I would give my colleague's right arm for getting into them ;-)) Greetings, Guido >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23.07.2003 15.54 Uhr >>> > eat this: Is it chewab

Error Message: Unable to bin endpoint (oidctl start)

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Lindermann
Hi, when i try to start the oid server process, i get the following message in the oidctl.log sgslunlListen: unable to bind endpoint (13) Dispatcher controller: OiD LDAP server exiting..status:0 When i look with ps -ef | grep oid I see a defunct marked oid server process. So i can´t connect to

RE: 9iAS vs. Weblogic and Websphere

2003-07-23 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan My impression is that 9iAS probably has the best database interface. The others look pretty primitive in comparison, basically just JDBC when you get to the bottom. Also, note that Oracle is currently running a special to lure WebLogic and Websphere users away. I think in this confusing, ev

RE: Antw: SQL question : How to retrieve the File_name without

2003-07-23 Thread Igor Neyman
> eat this: Is it chewable? -:) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Guido Konsolke Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Philippe, eat this: select substr('/oracle/d0/data/user.dbf',instr('/oracle/d0/data/user.dbf','

Re: backwards export

2003-07-23 Thread Simon . Anderson
I'm not sure of the export compatibility, but you should know that 9i clients won't talk to a 7.3.4 database, and 7.3.4 clients won't talk to a 9.2 database, which could be a problem. At least, they're not certified to talk to each other, which isn't quite the same thing. Cheers Simon Anderson

DB_BLOCK_LRU_LATCHES , multiple buffer pools , oracle9i

2003-07-23 Thread A.Bahar
when configuring multiple buffer pools in oracle9i , how are lru_latches set. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California

backwards export

2003-07-23 Thread Jeroen van Sluisdam
Hi,   We are investigating possibilities for migration of an oracle 7.3.4 to oracle 9i. We want to separate our production DB from the app-logic such that we can migrate from oracle 7.3.4 on hp-ux 10.20 to oracle 9i on hp-ux 11. Problem is our development and test-environment because we

RE: TOAD vs BMC's XRAY

2003-07-23 Thread Mark Leith
I'll jump in here if I may. There's another spotlight/DBXray type tool that we are starting to bring in to the UK market place at the moment, that is being received *very* well. The tool is called MGA Eagle Eye, which is developed over in Australia by Mark Gurry's company (http://www.mga-it.com).

DBMS_JOB scheduling

2003-07-23 Thread Garry Gillies
Any Interest? The DBMS_JOB package is supplied by Oracle to allow the running of procedures at regular intervals. Unfortunately the INTERVAL parameter is limited to 128 characters, which prevents you from getting very complex (user defined functions [in the interval parameter] do not work well

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