Re: ** can two processes use the same rollback extent

2003-12-27 Thread A Joshi
Hi,   A simple rollback segment question. If I do not set a optimal then can I assume following   1)  rollback segment will not shrink. 2) It will keep growing till tablespace fills up. 3) And there will be no 'snapshot too old' errors?   ThanksA Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi,     One r

On the front page of OTN

2003-12-27 Thread Jared Still
Quite a surprise to find this on the front page of OTN http://otn.oracle.com/pub/articles/dulaney_sed.html Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.

Re: pga_aggregate_target

2003-12-27 Thread Jared Still
It would appear that the values for _smm_max_size and _smm_px_max_size are specified in K, though not explicitly. In a test 9.2.0.4 database: pga_aggregate_target = 25165824 _smm_max_size = 1228 _smm_px_max_size = 7371 Anyone know this for sure? Jared On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 08:59, Tanel Poder

RE: any single serial session will never get more than 5% of pga

2003-12-27 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Hi Jonathan, I'm not sure what you really think about this new feature! Are you saying that Oracle is capable now of releasing the extra memory something it was not capable of before? If yes, then what does it have to do with the work policy? I see this feature useful (not really) for a databas

Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Jonathan, Which exact behaviour were you talking about? Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:34 PM > > Good news ! > That "bug" has been fixed in 9.2.0.4 > > Regards > > Jonathan Lewis > http

Re: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
> > > #2. How do you determine whether your buffer cache is sized > > properly? > > > > Your application meets it's defined operational response time > > and throughput constraints. > > Actually that is an interesting answer, since it doesn't answer the question > asked 'How do I know if my buffer

RE: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ryan > Sent: 27 December 2003 21:59 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio) > > > Performance 'problems' are dependent on w

Re: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Ryan
Performance 'problems' are dependent on what the marketing department gets in the SLA. So if your marketing guys negotiate very strict response time requirements and you dont meet them, then you have a performance problem. How do I know if my buffer cache is having any effect on that? - Origi

Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-27 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Good news ! That "bug" has been fixed in 9.2.0.4 Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr One-day tutorials: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial

RE: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
> > #2. How do you determine whether your buffer cache is sized > properly? > > Your application meets it's defined operational response time > and throughput constraints. Actually that is an interesting answer, since it doesn't answer the question asked 'How do I know if my buffer cache is siz

Re: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Title: Exporting a partition with transport tablespace Make sure that you use novalidate and exchange indexes as well - that way Oracle won't make unnecessary work. Also, you should export the metadata at the time when required partitions are exchanged to "transport tables".   Tanel.  

Re: TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
I agree that this difference might be only because sqlnet is much more "fat" that ICMP.   But anyway, could some overhead be added be because the failover & load balancing clauses that require extra work? Also, if listener logs every connection, this might add some extra IO time as well (if w

Re: Who fired the trigger

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Note that when finding sessionid, querying from v$mystat where rownum=1 is faster than selecting sys_context from dual, because dual access requires full table scan on it, which means 3-5 LIOs, depending on version, buffer pins, latches etc..   Even when you don't select sys_context from dual

Re: standby database configuration in 9iR2 SE ?

2003-12-27 Thread Tim Gorman
JP, Juan, and Prem, Prem is correct. Standby is certainly a feature of SE, just not the "managed recovery" and "SQL*Net log shipping" parts, which only come with EE. Essentially, Standby Database features in SE is just like Standby Database features from 7.3 through 8.0. I have some shell scrip

Re: SAMPLE BLOCK

2003-12-27 Thread Daniel W. Fink
There are two things that I can theorize could cause this problem. 1) Oracle bug (have you logged a tar with OWS?) 2) The block sampled is below the high water mark, but does not contain any data. I don't know the exact sampling algorithm, but this seems to be the 2nd simplest explanation (bug bei

RE: pga_aggregate_target

2003-12-27 Thread Bobak, Mark
Thanks Tanel. I wasn't aware of those parameters. -Original Message- From: Tanel Poder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 12/27/2003 11:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cc: Subject:Re: pga_aggregate_target > Also, consider that any single serial sessio

Re: order by

2003-12-27 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Saturday, December 27, 2003, 11:14:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: bnini> Hello list, Can someone please explain to me why the bnini> following order by clauses are valid and yield the bnini> same results : bnini> select empno, deptno from emp bnini> order by sqrt (1) ; The cl

Re: connection pooling from an application server to oracle

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
> I think the JDBC driver has connection pooling also, but not session > pooling. OCCI might have both. But I haven't checked. OCCI is AFAIK just an OO wrapper around OCI so it should have every functionality that OCI has. Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net

Re: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
> #1. what is the difference in the 4 BCHR's in 9i? What do you mean by that? Are you refferring to different buffer pool stats here? > #2. How do you determine whether your buffer cache is sized properly? Your application meets it's defined operational response time and throughput constraints.

Re: any single serial session will never get more than 5% of pga_aggregate_target

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! You may want to set _smm_max_size parameter to higher value (see my recent post about pga_aggregate_target), but I think setting your sessions pga management temporarily to manual + setting sort_area_size, as Jared and Jonathan already recommended, is better solution for your current issue. T

Re: order by

2003-12-27 Thread Gudmundur Josepsson
Because both expressions evaluate to 1 and cause the output to be sorted by the first column?  Oracle seems to ignore the values after the decimal point.   SQL> select a, c from x  2  where rownum < 10  3  order by 1.7;   A C-- -  4861 Y  4862 N  4863 Y  48

Re: pga_aggregate_target

2003-12-27 Thread Tanel Poder
> Also, consider that any single serial session will never get more than 5% of > pga_aggregate_target. For parallel operations, total is limited to 30%. The maximum can be controlled using "_smm_max_size" parameter which states how many kilobytes a serial session can use for its workarea operatio

Re: 10g new features question for beta testers

2003-12-27 Thread Tim Gorman
The credit for that goes to Gary Dodge. It has been his email signature for better than 10 years... "Building tomorrow's legacy systems today - one crisis at a time" Gene Fosnight (a successfully retired Oracle consultant) had an email signature that was, if anything, even better: "Look, listen

order by

2003-12-27 Thread bulbultyagi
Hello list, Can someone please explain to me why the following order by clauses are valid and yield the same results : select empno, deptno from emp order by sqrt (1) ; and select empno, deptno from emp order by sqrt ( 3.14234 ) ; The docs say that in the order by clause you could specify only

Re: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Ryan
#1. what is the difference in the 4 BCHR's in 9i? #2. How do you determine whether your buffer cache is sized properly? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:34 AM > Hi Yong > > I agree that "It's not the ra

RE: Correct way to accuse BCHR tuning method (Was: Hit ratio)

2003-12-27 Thread Niall Litchfield
Hi Yong > I agree that "It's not the ratio that needs condemning, it's > the advice about..." What I disagree is the wrong educational > tool people on public forums have recently used again and > again to show the inadequacy of the BCHR tuning method. The thing is most people who have used thi

Re: any single serial session will never get more than 5% of pga

2003-12-27 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Notes in-line Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr One-day tutorials: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html Three-day seminar: see http