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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:14:39 -0400
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Hello Eric
I think that you misunderstood.
| Ellison probably took the money and ran when this
| became apparent to him and many others. I know I did.
So (regardless of whether Ellison is a good example, or not),
do you think that there should be *any* accountability for the social
damage caus
Eric,
Have you considered the POSSIBILITY that Larry sold the stock without the
benefit of insider trading, and simply got lucky with his timing? After
all, the main reason Oracle stock has lost so much value is not due to
problems specific to the company, but due to problems in the market and
(test, posting from www.mail2web.com)
Gary,
Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
(Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)
Instead, what you see is people defending the social privileges of the
wealthy technocorporate elites, and the eth
A new boat, Ferrari, Mig fighter jet, mansion, maybe some Japanese art...
the man has some serious expenses. Seriously, I know that Oracle had a
problem with shady accounting practices many years ago (late 80's, if I
recall correctly). Their stock took a huge hit, and they cleaned up their
act.
Not sure about "cash for a new boat ",
but I'm sure read, that Ellison is getting his CEO salary in company stocks
(not in cash).
This could explain, him selling stocks, though 700,000,000 seems little
high.
The other point is, that Oracle stock didn't drop overnight - it was going
down gradually
Gary,
Well if you "know almost nothing about accounting", I'm about 200 ft deeper
into the waters than you and still "know almost nothing about accounting" as it
turns out. What is more, I don't even want to get acquainted with the bottom
feeders in this here ocean! We've always had the say
A lot of the current problem goes back to government intervention. Some
politicians/bureaucrats complained that CEO salaries were too high or unfair
and (as if they were fit to judge) they decided to "control" the high CEO
salary "problem" via taxation. So guess what happened? Corporate boards fel
>> Certainly. I'm waiting for people to present more factual information.
>> (Maybe Larry needed some petty cash for a new boat or something?)
As the story was related to me, Ellison has been living off of loans (from
banks, not Oracle) for the past couple decades. His alleged reasoning was
that
I would add to this ..
In a free market system nobody should
look at the negative side when people make
money off of their hard work or investments.
This is the way it is set up.
Why not say "damn, how did he do
it and where do I get in line to get
some of that action ?"
I always find i
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> I would add to this ..
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> In a free market
>There are those that argue Apple provided competition
>to Microsoft. Not very good competition, but competition
>nonetheless and so the monopoly argument goes out
>the window.
Only because years ago, MS put money in it (100 mill?) and
promised to port MS Office and IE to Mac to keep it alive,
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> In a free market system nobody should
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> money off o
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> Gary,
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> Well if you "know almost nothing about accounting", I'm about 200 ft
> deeper
> into the waters than you and still "know almost nothing about acco
Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:36 PM
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> Mike,
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> Apple is still trying to compete with MicroSlop & having
> a hard time of it
> as well. I believe Apple's major problem competing is t
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Mike,
Apple is still trying to compete with MicroSlop & having a hard time
of it
as well. I be
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