RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Pat The thing this article doesn't mention is that Microsoft is creating development centers in foreign countries. China hopes Microsoft establishes a large development center in China. Therefore, China won't publicly say much against Microsoft. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch,

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2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Hamilton
RE: Purely for your amusementSorry for that HTML reply. OE usually asks me if I want to send HTML or plain text whent he recipient is marked as "text only" in the address book. Apparently the fact that oracle-l was in the reply-to and not the from header confused it and it never asked. It just sent

Re: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement Do not fear. Australia is catching up quickly. I've gotten two "MS security patches" emailed to me in the last two days from a ISP in AU. I wonder if anyone actually falls for this stuff. - Original Message - From: Nick

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2003-02-28 Thread gmei
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement I think the reason that Microsoft does this is to keep the control of OS market in China. MS has a huge market share in China, almost exclusively. I read a report a while ago saying some local goverment (Beijing Minucipal?) is concerned about OS security

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2003-02-28 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement hmmm... ok, let's give one of the largest known hacking/cracking/virii producing countries in the world, the source code to the most common desktop in the world for 'security' purposes?   Bill has got be to smokin' something...  

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Excerpt from http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/gmsv/5286 438.htm Microsoft committed to providing Chinese government with information necessary to buy Microsoft products: The Chinese government will soon be able to view the source code for the Windows operating sys

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread Cary Millsap
it statistic tuning, eh? > -Original Message- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Purely for your amusement > > > Let me guess: this is a 64-bit im

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2003-02-28 Thread Glenn Travis
Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Purely for your amusement > > > Let me guess: this is a 64-bit implementation of Oracle on > HP? There are apparently lots of Endian bu

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2003-02-28 Thread Jesse, Rich
Beware of the Beast, aka "Axis", aka "MS Access". Yesterday a user called to have his Axis query killed because it had been running 10 minutes when it should only take about a second. After snooping the SQL, Axis was sending separate SQL statements for each table (in two different sessions), and

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread Barbara Baker
Precisely. In our environment, great care is taken with adding/modifying data. But when it comes to reporting, there's no standardization of products or concern about what's being reported. The DBA's find out about a bad query when it hits the "this sql really sucks" list (or when the whining sta

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2003-02-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
tds-3 has a feature whereby if someone scans your machine, you can (via a script or manuallY) send the person a message back. "I know who you are" is a default I think. Something like that would be useful. Ad hoc querying and 3rd party tools can be a problem, esp when users don't know anything a

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread Grant Allen
> Heh. 6 tables, 2 where statements, one of which is an outer. Gotta love it. >I'm thinking of building a tool that intercepts dumb SQL and emails back a raspberry. Whaddya think, is > there a market for such a utility? Oh yeah ... I'll buy two copies, so long as I can customise the second one to

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-28 Thread Niall Litchfield
t; > Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > yahoo.com>cc: > > > Sent by: Subject: > Purely for your amusement

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2003-02-27 Thread Naveen Nahata
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement More wonderful is that the users are complaining about poor performance and not of wrong data it is returning.   Are the users comfortable with catesian products returned to them with meaningless data?   Regards Naveen -Original Message-From

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2003-02-27 Thread Khedr, Waleed
The numbers look normal based on three Cartesian joins. Multiply the card for those Cartesians and you will get big numbers. Is the sql missing the join predicates(I'm tired to look further)? Regards, Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:24 PM To: Multiple

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2003-02-27 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement Heh. 6 tables, 2 where statements, one of which is an outer. Gotta love it. I'm thinking of building a tool that intercepts dumb SQL and emails back a raspberry. Whaddya think, is there a market for such a utility? > -Original Message

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2003-02-27 Thread Jared . Still
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: Purely for your amusement I found it in our "offending sql statements" report we get from the database each morning. Went looking when someone complained about poor performance. (Ya, do you THINK) Probably not Discoverer.

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2003-02-27 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
> > > Barbara Baker > > > Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > yahoo.com>

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2003-02-27 Thread Barbara Baker
> > > Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > yahoo.com> cc: >

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2003-02-27 Thread Jared . Still
MAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Purely for your amusement And you thought your job was bad . . . (Yes, this IS a production job) -- 0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=623898383366

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Cary Millsap
RF, This looks like a good one for your list: "11. Developers of SQL should consider using a WHERE clause." Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - RMOUG Training Days 2003, Mar 5-6 Denver - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 London -Original Message-

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2003-02-27 Thread John Shaw
      Barbara Baker              yahoo.com>    cc:       Sent by:      Subject: Purely for your amusement   

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2003-02-27 Thread Mark Richard
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2003-02-27 Thread Cary Millsap
Let me guess: this is a 64-bit implementation of Oracle on HP? There are apparently lots of Endian bugs in how the Oracle kernel emits statistics on this platform. It's common, for example, for 10046 trace files to contain row counts in the millions of trillions (or something like that). It's not *

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2003-02-27 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement Barbara, I just gotta know: How long does it take to run? Jerry Whittle ASIFICS DBA NCI Information Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 618-622-4145 -Original Message- From:   Barbara Baker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And you thought your job

Re: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Have you tried including a WHERE clause ? Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk Coming soon one-day tutorials: Cost Based Optimisation Trouble-shooting and Tuning Indexing Strategies (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) UK___March 19th USA_(FL)_May 2nd

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2003-02-27 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Purely for your amusement Misery loves company.  Thank you!  By the way...  how long does this take to finish?  -Original Message- From: Barbara Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Disable all triggers, primary keys and foreign keys... they are obviously causing all your problems. Consider purchasing the same hardware as the one used for the MS SQL Server benchmark. (not) Regards, Pat. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:53 PM To: Multiple recipi

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I have a hard time believing these figures... unbelievable! Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes

Re: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Scott Behrens
Thanks!   I especially liked:   TABLE...FULL OF 'WOE'   That seems to be how the day is going for several of us.  Scott >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/27/03 1:23:55 PM >>>And you thought your job was bad . . .(Yes, this IS a production job)--

RE: Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Barbara, I noticed that there was on INDEX being used in the plan. Please modify the code. Use of indexes are not permitted unless explicit permission has been given. thank you. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:24

Purely for your amusement

2003-02-27 Thread Barbara Baker
And you thought your job was bad . . . (Yes, this IS a production job) -- 0 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=6238983833668070 Card=81143391896031200 10 MERGE JOIN (Cost=6238983833668070 Card=