Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
It must have been either Scott Gossett or Scott Heisey. But not that Scott. The two other Scott's are still with Oracle Education, I think. Glenn Stauffer wrote: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide.

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Pete Sharman
Quite right. It was Bruce Scott (didn't he do something at IOUG this year?) and I believe Tiger is (or presumably was since this was so long ago and the poor beastie has presumably karked it) his cat. Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no,

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Rachel Carmichael
you find the classes (I took them with Scott for 8i) by searching the Oracle education site, and searching on seminars. They aren't given often and it's likely that travel will be necessary --- Pete Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well that not too surprising. Just about everything Scott d

Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Glenn Stauffer
Rachel Carmichael wrote: Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the Scott of Scott/tiger Thanks for the correction, indeed a web search found the reference on technet to Bruce Scott. Scott Gossett was the instructor I have; he was probably explaining that he wasn

Re: RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread rgaffuri
what office is that internals class taught out of? does anyone else teach it? how many days is it? > > From: "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 11:35:34 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sub

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Pete Sharman
Well that not too surprising. Just about everything Scott does (he still works with Oracle) is very, very good. Most recent thing I've seen him working on was the OCM exam, which no doubt explains why it was so hard! I believe the Internals course morphed into a series of internal courses (i.e.

RE: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
g' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. > > From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipien

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Gogala, Mladen
You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that internals course and it was good. It was very, very good. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gudmund

RE: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
p before he makes up his mind. > > From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > If you want real adva

Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the Scott of Scott/tiger --- Glenn Stauffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: > > >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > >>or guys at his level provide. > >> >

RE: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Stefick Ronald S Civ ESC/HRIDD
Title: RE: Re: 9i OCP Details It's well worth the begging.  I went in April and it was a GREAT class.  I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Mul

Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Glenn Stauffer
Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took fr

Re: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread rgaffuri
ate: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > or guys at his level provide. > > I have to agree on this.

Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson
> If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to

Re: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-26 Thread Tanel Poder
esday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM > > > > > > > to get OCM you need to > > > > > > take 2 advanced classes > > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > > > > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there

RE: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Naveen Nahata
gt; Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not > familiar with that > one. > > what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i > took you just sit > and listen to the instructor? > > how

Re: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Ryan
> > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? > btw, how much does it all cost? > > > > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > D

Re: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Tanel Poder
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > > Hi! > > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to em

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
The story I heard from one of the senior Oracle Education Instructors was that some jerks completed the OCP and then bragged about how they had done it without ever logging into Oracle. So Oracle added the requirement to complete a course. I asked the instructor, "so you guys are going to ensure no

RE: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
; > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > Hi! > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i.

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Bart Kersteter
if you take the 8i exams first and the 9i upgrade exam even without the courses. -Original Message-From: Bart Kersteter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi Senthil,   I am i

Re: Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread rgaffuri
06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > Hi! > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > On resume it

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Paula_Stankus
list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi Senthil,   I am in the same boat as you.  I have worked with Oracle for about 7 years but am finally getting going on my OCP work.  Since all of the older Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to the New

Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> S

Re: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Bart Kersteter
Hi Senthil,   I am in the same boat as you.  I have worked with Oracle for about 7 years but am finally getting going on my OCP work.  Since all of the older Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to the New Features Course as well.  You can take all of the exam

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread Darrell Landrum
You'll want to verify this on otn.oracle.com, but it SEEMS (I stress seems because this is the way I understand it.) that as of sometime last year (September maybe), if one starts the 9i track with no prior exams there is an in-class training requirement which must be met. However, if you already

RE: 9i OCP Details

2003-06-25 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class