It must have been either Scott Gossett or Scott Heisey. But not that
Scott. The two other Scott's are still with Oracle Education, I think.
Glenn Stauffer wrote:
Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote:
If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis
or guys at his level provide.
Quite right. It was Bruce Scott (didn't he do something at IOUG this
year?) and I believe Tiger is (or presumably was since this was so long
ago and the poor beastie has presumably karked it) his cat.
Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no,
you find the classes (I took them with Scott for 8i) by searching the
Oracle education site, and searching on seminars.
They aren't given often and it's likely that travel will be necessary
--- Pete Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well that not too surprising. Just about everything Scott d
Rachel Carmichael wrote:
Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the
Scott of Scott/tiger
Thanks for the correction, indeed a web search found the reference on
technet to Bruce Scott. Scott Gossett was the instructor I have; he was
probably explaining that he wasn
what office is that internals class taught out of? does anyone else teach it? how many
days is it?
>
> From: "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 11:35:34 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sub
Well that not too surprising. Just about everything Scott does (he still
works with Oracle) is very, very good. Most recent thing I've seen him
working on was the OCM exam, which no doubt explains why it was so hard!
I believe the Internals course morphed into a series of internal courses
(i.e.
g' get my boss to
send
me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :(
hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind.
>
> From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT
> To: Multiple recipien
You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that
internals course and it was good. It was very, very good.
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
Phone:(203) 459-6855
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Gudmund
p before he makes up his mind.
>
> From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details
>
> > If you want real adva
Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the
Scott of Scott/tiger
--- Glenn Stauffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote:
>
> >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis
>
> >>or guys at his level provide.
> >>
>
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It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there.
-Scott
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Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote:
If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis
or guys at his level provide.
I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's
'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course
I ever took fr
ate: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details
>
> > If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis
> > or guys at his level provide.
>
> I have to agree on this.
> If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis
> or guys at his level provide.
I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's
'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course
I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to
esday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM
> >
> >
> > > to get OCM you need to
> > >
> > > take 2 advanced classes
> > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right?
> > >
> > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there
gt; Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
>
>
> this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not
> familiar with that
> one.
>
> what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i
> took you just sit
> and listen to the instructor?
>
> how
> > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right?
> >
> > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different
OCMs?
> btw, how much does it all cost?
> > >
> > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > D
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to em
The story I heard from one of the senior Oracle Education Instructors was
that some jerks completed the OCP and then bragged about how they had done
it without ever logging into Oracle. So Oracle added the requirement to
complete a course. I asked the instructor, "so you guys are going to ensure
no
;
> Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details
>
> Hi!
>
> If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go
with
> 8i first, then upgrade to 9i.
if you take the 8i exams first and the 9i upgrade exam even
without the courses.
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Hi Senthil,
I am i
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> Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details
>
> Hi!
>
> If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with
> 8i first, then upgrade to 9i.
> On resume it
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Hi Senthil,
I am in the same boat as you. I have worked with Oracle for about 7
years but am finally getting going on my OCP work. Since all of the
older Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to
the New
Hi!
If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with
8i first, then upgrade to 9i.
On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;)
Tanel.
OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM.
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Hi Senthil,
I am in the same boat as you. I have worked with Oracle for about 7
years but am finally getting going on my OCP work. Since all of the older
Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to the New
Features Course as well. You can take all of the exam
You'll want to verify this on otn.oracle.com, but it SEEMS (I stress
seems because this is the way I understand it.) that as of sometime last
year (September maybe), if one starts the 9i track with no prior exams
there is an in-class training requirement which must be met. However,
if you already
Senthil
So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you
should:
1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam.
2. Take the 9i exams.
This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work
with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class
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