Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-06 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
-.-. --.- -.. . -.- WA9CAM/0 - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:58 AM > > I should have mentioned that another useful one could be QRM. > > QRM = I am experiencing interference. > QRM? = Are you exper

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-06 Thread Stephen Lee
I should have mentioned that another useful one could be QRM. QRM = I am experiencing interference. QRM? = Are you experiencing interference? Look across the table at your DBA-mates during your next meeting with management and say or ask QRM(?). Or blink your eyes. --.- .-. -- > -Origi

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-04 Thread Joe Testa
Yea but I never see a "what's your QTH" joe Stephen Lee wrote: Maybe it's time to bring back all those Morse code "Q" abbreviations with appropriate adaptation to IT industry. Instead of QRO meaning "increase your power", it might mean "Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer." I

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Naveen Nahata
If you need the answer, from someone who is unwilling to yield, you will have to yield yourself. This is the first thing I learnt on this list. There are real experts on this list, and if you want an answer from them, make sure that they don't direct the mail to trash even before reading it. T

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Jared . Still
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Well if you want an answer from the experts on this list (or anyone, really - I fall into the 'shmo' category) it's best

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2003-01-02 Thread mkb
Actually Raj, I appreciate the fact that you brought this up. It needed to be said. mohammed --- "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry everyone ... I didn't mean to open a can of > worms. > > Raj > __ > Rajendra Jamadagni

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Stephen Andert
Too easy Rachel... Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A** Off Stephen >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/02/03 12:05PM >>> then you'll enjoy trying to figure out ROTFLMAO the L does stand for laughing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general >

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
then you'll enjoy trying to figure out ROTFLMAO the L does stand for laughing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general > meaning > by looking at the context it was used in but > know I actually know. > I knew that if I perservered long

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Proper use of language never hurts. In fact, as Raj pointed out, if you use the abbreviations in work emails or memos, especially to people higher in the corporate structure, you are likely to lose image points. --- OraCop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I understand that writing "you" is not

Was [RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared]

2003-01-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Was [RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared] Sorry everyone ... I didn't mean to open a can of worms. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni      MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
it can mean both. one of the reasons I don't love abbreviations! --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought lol meant "laughing out loud"? > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM > To:

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Witold Iwaniec
It reminds me the text I have read few years ago, maybe even posted to this list: http://www.ahajokes.com/eng011.html BTW Personally I am on the "philosophical" side - use common abbreviations like BTW, ROTFL, etc but don't like the U, 4U, etc. But who knows what the future brings, especially wit

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Well if you want an answer from the experts on this list (or anyone, really - I fall into the 'shmo' category) it's best to ask a question in the clearest way possible...  otherwise your emails may go directly to the dele

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Kevin Lange
"Lighten up Frances " -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that "text messages" have no place in a forum suc

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread mkb
Dnt knw wht al the fss is abt. Why nt just drp al th vwls? V cn al undrstd tht cn't v? ;-) mhmd --- OraCop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I understand that writing "you" is not much > trouble compared to writing "U", but understanding > "U", should not be much trouble either. Don't U > thin

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Stephen Lee
Maybe it's time to bring back all those Morse code "Q" abbreviations with appropriate adaptation to IT industry. Instead of QRO meaning "increase your power", it might mean "Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer." I don't think you will ever see QRP used (reduce your power). > --

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Richard Ji
Don't forget a lot of people uses PDA or wireless devices which has limitations on how many characters can be trasmitted. SMS for instance allows only 160 characters. Now why would someone write from such a device to ask an Oracle question is beyond me. Perhaps all the machines are down? :) Wi

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Richard Ji
lol = laughing out loud lots of luck, lots of love, lots of laughs, little old lady. I will stop here now :) Richard Ji -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought lol meant "laughing out loud"? Tom Mercadante Oracle

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread OraCop
Even though i strongly think that there is nothing wrong in writing U instead of you, respecting your feelings towards the list, and considering the fact that we must think above such small matters, I will be careful in future. Thanks. OraCop. --- Martin Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Al

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Martin Kendall
Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that "text messages" have no place in a forum such as this. Quite apart from being needless, such a message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a distinct arrogance

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread OraCop
Well, I understand that writing "you" is not much trouble compared to writing "U", but understanding "U", should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have never known what lol stood for , I > appreciated the general meaning > by looking at the co

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Thanks Dennis, It isn't my first language either (I started learning English in the 5th grade in India). I have seen this language before, and like Rachel said, it is more of a philosophical trouble. I used similar langua

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Gints Plivna
Hmm, English really isn't my mother tongue, but I don't like such cryptic notations in English as well as in Latvian. It makes language more meagre and poor. Of course I also make mistakes but these are caused by my lack of knowledge and I can always accept them from another people. Gints Plivna

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I thought lol meant "laughing out loud"? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to con

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread John.Hallas
I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 Janu

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irr

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing "you" written as "u". It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my "Great One" yet) to

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread Yechiel Adar
detail explaination. By > > > the way what is MetaLink ? > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > Sony > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Satu

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
tion ain't quite right so > > > > > it looks like complicated but I will try to give > > > > detail explaination. By > > > > > the way what is MetaLink ? > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > Sony > > > > > > &g

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread Jared Still
ooks like complicated but I will try to give > > > > detail explaination. By > > > > > the way what is MetaLink ? > > > > > > Rgrds, > > > > > > Sony > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jare

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread OraCop
te: > > > > Yes, that's right Jared, by doing this we can > make schedule when we > > > > want > > > > > > to > > > > > > > backup our data onto hard disk or tape > periodicaly (weekly or daily > > > > even

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
it looks like complicated but I will try to give detail explaination. By > the way what is MetaLink ? > > Rgrds, > > Sony > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM > &

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-28 Thread Tim Gorman
ou can help me to solve it. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:06 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto > > Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i > > > >

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-27 Thread Jared Still
the way what is MetaLink ? > > Rgrds, > > Sony > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM > > To: Sony kristanto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re:

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-27 Thread Sony kristanto
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM > To: Sony kristanto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i > > > Hmm > > A lot of folks on this liststudiously avoid OEM. I know I do, > and I'm not going to be much help on this. > &g

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-27 Thread Jared Still
ecember 27, 2002 10:06 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto > > Subject:Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i > > > > > > Sony, > > > > What is an 'automatic' backup? > > > > Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterpr

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-27 Thread Sony kristanto
L PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:06 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto > Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i > > > Sony, > > What is an 'automatic' backup? > > Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterprise

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-27 Thread Stephen Lee
If this is rman backup, perhaps try granting sysdba to sys, or connecting to target as sysdba? > -Original Message- > From: Sony kristanto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 7:24 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Automatic backup on Orac

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-27 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i To me "Automatic Backup" means the backup jobs/scripts written by resident script kiddies (AKA Unix Admins). Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni      MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni a

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-26 Thread Tim Gorman
Not familiar with this. Is this something in Oracle Enterprise Manager, perhaps the "backup manager" forms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:23 PM > Hi Listers, > I'm new on Oracle Database 9i after I

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i

2002-12-26 Thread Jared Still
Sony, What is an 'automatic' backup? Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterprise Manager' thingy? Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:23, Sony kristanto wrote: > Hi Listers, > I'm new on Oracle Database 9i after I migrated from Oracle 8i. > I try to use backup facility from Oracle