RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-10 Thread Mohan, Ross
Dennis, Thanks for the thoughts, the historical snapshot, and for paying attention to the question. I am on the DW list now, and will newby-ize them straight away. - Ross -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ross - Sti

RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-10 Thread
I've been bodging my way though setting up a database to hold summary info for 11 million assets with various look-up tables around it, the whole to be refreshed weekly. Its not that big - around 15Gb, it doesn't have a timestamp as the partition key and it does not contain transaction info, but

Re: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-08 Thread Jared Still
On Friday 07 December 2001 20:35, Robert Chin wrote: > >> My short take on this is that a datawarehouse is a OLTP database.. > > What ??? I think you should keep that "short take" to yourself for the > benefit of those who are seeking to learn/understand about DWH. > It's not uncommon to find

Re: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-07 Thread Robert Chin
>> My short take on this is that a datawarehouse is a OLTP database.. What ??? I think you should keep that "short take" to yourself for the benefit of those who are seeking to learn/understand about DWH. It's not uncommon to find OLTP databases with de-normalized data, and they are certainly

RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-07 Thread tday6
I don't think that size has much to do with it. You can have lots of data but if it's all in a few tables then it doesn't qualify as a datawarehouse (IMHO). My short take on this is that a datawarehouse is a OLTP database with de-normalized data that supports a DSS application. -- Please see t

RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-07 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ross - Still hung up on size hmmm. How about this for a definition. A data warehouse encompasses data for the entire organization. A data mart services data for a portion of the organization. The history of this subject is relevant. In the 80's there were Executive Information Sy

Re: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-06 Thread Don Granaman
I, like many others, have a problem with the "size is everything" definition. I worked with a 2 TB DSS system six years ago that wasn't a real "data warehouse". And I've seen a true datawarehouse fledgling that was under 200 GB (with lots of free space). However, even making the nonsense assump

RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-06 Thread Mohan, Ross
Jared, Thanks. I have the main RK book. Like it. Understand what little i have read of it. I am just interested in what folks thought about "size vs. DW definition" was. I *do* think, tho, that "size does matter". I don't consider my shared E: drive a datawarehouse because it can support a

Re: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-06 Thread Jared . Still
Ross, A DW is defined by purpose and design, not by size. A collection of Data Marts, ( tables for star joins ) is not a DW either. DW's are used to create data marts. If you don't already have the database books from Kimball, I suggest you acquire them. Data Warehouse Toolkit http://www.am

RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-06 Thread April Wells
Barbara... have you been talking to men again...? As I was instructed by the Oracle Data Warhouse class instructor last year... it isn't the amount of data, but what it's purpose is... what you do with it. He was a neat teacher... Harley and all. April -Original Message- To: Multipl

RE: Datawarehouse Sizes.....informal poll.

2001-12-06 Thread Baker, Barbara
Ross Size doesn't matter. No, really. Who's imposing the "amount of data" constraint?? Push Dodge and Gorman's "Oracle8 Data Warehousing" book toward your damagement, and somehow trick them into reading the first chapter. They quote Inmon (of course) -- a data warehouse is a "subject oriented, in