Re: Nologging

2001-03-28 Thread Jim Walski
Alter database noarchivelog; will change the entire database. see the following for detailed information: http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_index.htm HTH, Jim -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, March 2

Re: Nologging

2001-03-28 Thread Joseph S. Testa
i discuss this in my advanced logminer class but the gist is this, nologging has no impact on DML. only the following operations can make use of the NOLOGGING option: alter table...move partition alter table...split partition alter index...split partition alter index...rebuild alter ind

Re: Nologging

2001-03-28 Thread Oliver Artelt
that has nothing to do with the question. But anyway, try ALTER TABLE NOLOGGING instead. oli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > Alter database noarchivelog; > > will change the entire database. > > see the following for detailed information: > > http://technet.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_ind

Re: Nologging

2001-03-28 Thread Jim Walski
Yes you can issue the alter table nologging but it will only be relevant for certain operations not all UPDATE, DELETE, conventional path INSERT statements. Jim Reference the following I found on metalink: Doc ID: Note:1038660.6 Type: PROBLEM Status: PUBLISHED Content Type: TEXT/PLAIN Crea

Re: NOLOGGING

2001-09-02 Thread Joe Testa
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Re: NOLOGGING

2001-06-25 Thread MHately
Hi Greg, Delete isn't an operation that supports nologging. So you should see exactly the same performance. Regards, Mike Hately Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051

RE: NOLOGGING

2001-06-25 Thread Ramon Estevez
Hi Greg, Yes, you should get a improve performance due to the nologging option in the delete wont write redo log information. Ramón Estévez *809-565-3121 x 225 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Greg Solomon En

RE: NOLOGGING

2001-06-25 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
Ramon, That is not true. Setting NOLOGGING at the object level only reduces the amount of redo generated for bulk INSERT operations with the /*+ APPEND */ hint, certain partition administration operations and of course during the creation of the object itself. It does not eliminate generation of

RE: NOLOGGING

2001-06-25 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: RE: NOLOGGING True, but somebody on the list talked about "delete nologgin". I did not find immense benifit in this option. Any views on this? -Original Message- From: Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:10 AM To

RE: NOLOGGING

2001-06-26 Thread Ramon Estevez
nombre de Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha Enviado el: Monday, 25 June, 2001 9:10 PM Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: RE: NOLOGGING Ramon, That is not true. Setting NOLOGGING at the object level only reduces the amount of redo generated for bulk INSERT operations with the /*+ APPEND

RE: NOLOGGING

2001-06-26 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
DELETE is not a finction that NOLOGGING has any effect on. You can't reduce the amount of redo generated in a delete by making the object NOLOGGING. It is a common misconception :-) that NOLOGGING pertains to all types of DML and DDL. Please consult the following section of the Concepts Manual:

RE: NOLOGGING

2001-06-26 Thread Ramon Estevez
You're right Jeremiah, tks Ramon Estevez *809-565-3121 x 225 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Jeremiah Wilton Enviado el: Tuesday, 26 June, 2001 11:16 AM Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunt

RE: NOLOGGING FEATURE

2001-06-25 Thread Greg Solomon
Hi Raj RTFM is a relational trace file management system. Originally released as an add-on with 8.0.0.6, I think it now comes standard with 9i. Cheers Greg -Original Message- Sent: Monday, 25 June 2001 09:52 To: Greg Solomon Greg I'm curious.. Whats RTFM is?? Raj -Original Mes

RE: NOLOGGING FEATURE

2001-06-25 Thread MHately
Greg, In 9i our good old Relational Trace File Management has been renamed to Real Trace File Management. Worse than that. The Logical Oracle Listener option is now called Real Oracle Transmission Failover Listener Management Advanced Option. Regards, Mike Hately Oracle DBA Greg Solomon <[

Re: NOLOGGING FEATURE

2001-06-25 Thread Joseph S. Testa
And the in 9i the old ora-00600 errors are now known as Strategic Open Licensing. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Greg, > > In 9i our good old Relational Trace File Management has been renamed to Real > Trace File Management. > > Worse than that. The Logical Oracle Listener option is now ca

RE: NOLOGGING FEATURE

2001-06-25 Thread nlzanen1
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RE: NOLOGGING/LOGGING

2001-05-14 Thread Rajaram
There was similar Q from Vikas@innoventry a few days back You cannot turn off logging. Reason: Search through your mails dated 3 days back. Rajaram. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:36 PM To: Multiple recipients o

RE: NOLOGGING/LOGGING

2001-05-14 Thread Vikas Kawatra
Thanks Rajaram ! Here's the bottom line : NOLOGGING doesn't apply to conventional DML at all ! It applies only to CREATE/ALTER objects and Direct Load Inserts such as using SqlLoader or INSERT as SELECT -Original Message- Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of

RE: NOLOGGING/LOGGING

2001-05-14 Thread SRAJENDRAN
thanks -Original Message- Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanks Rajaram ! Here's the bottom line : NOLOGGING doesn't apply to conventional DML at all ! It applies only to CREATE/ALTER objects and Direct Load Inserts such as using SqlLoader

Re: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Yong Huang
Hi, Igor, Direct-path insert does not work for IOTs. This is documented in SQL Reference for INSERT. Whether it works for a table without NOLOGGING set (i.e. LOGGING) is not clear to me. Documentation says the table has to be NOLOGGING, or its tablespace has to be so. But Tom Kyte seems to show u

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Igor Neyman
Yong, M.b. my question was not clear. I know, "nologging" doesn't work with IOTs. What I'd like to know, if there are any "tricks" (similar to direct-path) to minimize undo/redo when inserting into IOT. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Yong Huang Sent: Wednesda

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Yong Huang
I see. Sorry for misreading. How about direct path load? sqlldr direct=true. But this means your data source is on the filesystem. What is M.b.? Yong Huang --- Igor Neyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yong, > > M.b. my question was not clear. > I know, "nologging" doesn't work with IOTs. > Wha

Re: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Denny Koovakattu
Yong, If the database is in ARCHIVELOG mode, then the table must be set to NOLOGGING for append hint to work. If the database is in NOARCHIVELOG mode, then the table setting does not matter. Tom has not specified whether the database he tested against was in NOARCHIVELOG mode or whether the t

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Igor Neyman
Unfortunately my source is another table. By the way (btw.), will " sqlldr direct=true" work with IOT? "m.b" - may be. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Yong Huang Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I see. Sorry

Re: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Yong Huang
Thanks, Denny. That's it. I imagine Tom's test database is running in noarchivelog mode and the tablespace is logging. Yong Huang --- Denny Koovakattu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yong, > > If the database is in ARCHIVELOG mode, then the table must be set to > NOLOGGING > for append hint to wo

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Yong Huang
Yes, direct-path load works on IOTs, at least in 9.2 running in Solaris 2.8. Yong Huang --- Igor Neyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately my source is another table. > By the way (btw.), will " sqlldr direct=true" work with IOT? > > "m.b" - may be. > > Igor Neyman, OCP DBA > [EMAIL PRO

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Khedr, Waleed
A trick, use a regular table and create an index that has all the needed columns. Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yong, M.b. my question was not clear. I know, "nologging" doesn't work with IOTs. What I'd li

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Igor Neyman
Well, that's not a trick -:) I wouldn't be asking, if I had enough space for both table and index. It's a huge "narrow" table, which never gets updated (only inserts/deletes) - perfectly fits IOT. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Khedr, Waleed Sent: Wednesday, N

RE: nologging for IOT

2003-11-05 Thread Khedr, Waleed
works and generates redo -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes, direct-path load works on IOTs, at least in 9.2 running in Solaris 2.8. Yong Huang --- Igor Neyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately my source i

Re: Nologging index tablespaces?

2002-06-10 Thread Cherie_Machler
Dennis, We have set particular indexes to nologging when building them. These are indexes that we drop every night for our warehouse load. It is a hassle because whenever we clone this database to our QA box, those nologged indexes get corrupt and we have to rebuild them. Takes us three hou

RE: Nologging index tablespaces?

2002-06-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Cherie Thanks for the input. This would be an OLTP database, with continual inserts/updates/deletes. I guess that CREATE INDEX NOLOGGING would save something in the redo logs. I'm not convinced that having a tablespace containing only indexes set to NOLOGGING would save redo. Since redo i

Re: Nologging index tablespaces?

2002-06-10 Thread Greg Moore
My understanding is... If an INSERT into the table also inserts an entry into the index, that's logged. An index is a data file, so if it changes that's going to be logged. This will happen even if the index is NOLOGGING. Creation of the index and some other operations won't be logged if NOLOG

RE: Nologging and redo generation

2002-08-14 Thread Sunil_Nookala
SQL loader(direct load),direct inserts, and create table as select...will not generate redo/undo by using NOLOGGING. Your Transaction is logged while deleting rows, can't be blocked. correct me if I am wrong. Sunil Nookala Database Analyst Dell Corp Austin, TX -Original Message- Sen

RE: Nologging and redo generation

2002-08-16 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Nologging and redo generation > -Original Message- > From: Smith, Ron L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Can I use the nologging option on simple inert and deletes to > eliminate > rollback problems and redo generation? Which version of Oracle? From

Re: NOLOGGING creates txns in redo/archive logs

2001-05-01 Thread james ellis
This is normal. When a transaction is set to nologging, minimal redo is written because of Data Dictionary changes that are occurring. James --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have been testing logminer and noticed that when I > alter a table to > NOLOGGING, txns are still recorded in the

Re: NOLOGGING creates txns in redo/archive logs

2001-05-01 Thread Janet Schmitt 265-3334
John - I had this same question not too long ago. This is what I found in the documentation. Only the following operations can make use of the NOLOGGING option: alter table...move partition alter table...split partition alter index...split partition alter index...rebuild alter

Re: NOLOGGING creates txns in redo/archive logs

2001-05-01 Thread Connor McDonald
Only "nologging supported" operations will not result in logging eg create index, direct load insert and other such operations... hth connor --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I have been testing logminer and noticed that when I > alter a table to > NOLOGGING, txns are still recorded in the