Mladen - I'm sorry but I'm still struggling with the part of your note that
says After all, I had to resign because I advised my boss to buy MIPS R3300
based DECSystems 5800 with Ultrix. In slightly less then a year . . .
Let me understand. You made a recommendation, which your boss accepted.
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From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:23 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle and OpenVMS (was: Rename Column in 9iR2)
Mladen - I'm sorry but I'm still struggling with the part of
your note
Gogala, Mladen wrote:
system should be purchased (well, aside from an Altos server
running a Z-80,
but that worked out well, but again, NO upgrade path), and in
the future I'm
going to be very careful not to give anybody the idea that
I'm offering an
opinion unless it is clearly
Mladen - Thanks for replying. And I thought formerly communist countries
would have had the socialist idea that nobody ever lost their job. How naive
of me I'm hoping that you are in a better job situation today.
Actually, I've always wondered if organizations in foreign companies
Rich,
I thank you for the heads up. I have read the install and release
notes for Oracle on OpenVMS and will approach with a lot of caution. I
am very familiar with the Unix world commands and expected actions but,
the OpenVMS commands I have to learn and try to understand before I
attempt the
vms is a great os, if only dec ported it to the intel chip, then ms would not be what
it is today. ohh well, that's history. for installs on vms use oracleins not the gui
installer. they give you 2 choices, guess b/c the gui doesn't work :). wish they
would bring back orainst /c for unix!
I can add to Jesse's comments. VMS has always been the bastard of Oracle
Platforms even though it was written for VMS initially. Remember that Larry
first wrote Oracle on the VMS platform.
The installation process is actually very clean as compared to many other
environments. Yes, it does
Ron:
There's a list at
iouga-vms-l
The traffic is very-very-very-very light. However, when I've needed help,
the responses have been exceptional.
Good luck!
Barb
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From: Ron Rogers[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May
Thanks, Barb.
From the traffic on this issue I think that there is quite a few VMS
users on the list. They have been quiet and do not generate a lot of
traffic. Does this mean that I have to watch all of the other traffic
and think to myself why not convert to VMS and not have the
problems?
VMS uses logicals as much as Unix uses environment variables. I use vms logicals and
unix env variables in my db create scripts. VMS logicals also work for init.ora
params (eg. control_files) whereas in Unix, you must spell it out.
gene
*used vms b4 dos was around :)*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do this:
$define/system sys$error nla0:
and everything will be working fine. Those pesky error messages will be
gone. Just kidding. There is, however an open source project called
FreeVMS
which wants to do exactly that: to create a free version of OpenVMS for PCs,
much like Linux. The home
http://www.free-vms.org
But I think they only support up to Oracle 8.1.7. ;D
Of course, now that I made that little joke, I can't even get into the
website...
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI
try http://www.freevms.org/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 03:40PM
http://www.free-vms.org
But I think they only support up to Oracle 8.1.7. ;D
Of course, now that I made that little joke, I can't even get into the
website...
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
hmmm, eve is the best editor and lets not forget show/process/cont/id=pid. vms on
intel. i wonder if it will take off.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 03:35PM
Do this:
$define/system sys$error nla0:
and everything will be working fine. Those pesky error messages will be
gone. Just kidding.
Actually, the gui does work for VMS. You need to use an emulator like
Exceed and initiate a DecWindows session on the server. In actuality, you
become a server (ie your pc) for the session.
I used this for installing early versions of 8.0 and 8i and it worked quite
well.
Thank You
Stephen P.
Actually used on the console, dec cde, openvms 7.3 oracle 8.1.7.3 and the gui failed,
re-ran using oracleins it worked like a charm. I don't remember the error messages.
Oh well, some work, some don't.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 04:43PM
Actually, the gui does work for VMS. You need to use
I take it you haven't patched yet? AFAIK, 8i+ patches work off the OUI
directory. And I'm guessing that ORACLEINS doesn't populate anything in
there, which leads me to believe that the patch may not take.
Or does it???
Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL
I applied 11 additional patches to 8.1.7.3 (I also was unable to get OUI to
work, after spending hours trying.)
The patches went on nice and clean. No requirement to use OUI.
Worked ok for me. . . .
Barb
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From: Jesse, Rich[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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It is a new install, oracle 8.1.7, then 8.1.7.3 patch, then creation of db's. It all
working so far, only been 3 weeks :).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 06:33PM
I take it you haven't patched yet? AFAIK, 8i+ patches work off the OUI
directory. And I'm guessing that ORACLEINS doesn't populate
OpenVMS is a rock solid plafform, we run 120+ 817 databases (spread across
20 nodes) with very few platform issues. The downside is some functionality
doesn't work too well (like MTS) and on the benchmarks we've done inhouse
Oracle/Tru64 has always been roughly 2x as fast as Oracle/OpenVMS on
On 2002.05.23 22:43 Brown, Pedr wrote:
OpenVMS is a rock solid plafform, we run 120+ 817 databases (spread
across
20 nodes) with very few platform issues. The downside is some
functionality
doesn't work too well (like MTS) and on the benchmarks we've done
inhouse
Oracle/Tru64 has always
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