RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-13 Thread DEEDSD
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RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-13 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio In our environment, each DBA supports a certain number of databases  that are his/her 'primary' databases (all the way from Test/Dev/Accept/Production). The same person is 'secondary' or 'tertiary' for others. We follow a

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Burke, William F (Bill)
Title: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio In my shops we use a similar matrix to this for management and assignment.  In short, on-call rotates weekly and the "on-call" responsibility covers non business hours (eg: 7pm - 8am).  The remainder of the time the environment DB

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Chuck Hamilton
Title: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio With such a large # of databases to support, how do you divide up the work? Does everyone administer all of the databases, or are databases assigned to a DBA? How do you handle on-call? - Original Message - From: Adams, Matthew (GECP

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Chuck Hamilton
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:51To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio We have 4 production Oracle databases and 3 DBA's. Of course, we have additional duties as well. I spend many afternoons out at the airpo

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Burke, William F (Bill)
ime/efficiency Rate of change of db Number of managers interested in using you as a resource Number of servers Uptime requirements Rate of development Niall > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Chuck Hamilton > Sent: 11 Ma

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Spears, Brian
Are those pages real production issues? How much is fire fighting work? Brian -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We have 7 DBAs. 105 production databases (97 24x7), ranging from 2 GB OLTP to 800 GB data warehouses. 395

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Niall Litchfield
--Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Chuck Hamilton > Sent: 11 March 2003 21:29 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio > > > You are the first reply out of at least 20 (public and &g

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Jared . Still
Well, I'll add my $00.02 worth. I have about 15 databases, more or less. It varies depending on what's going on. Right now it's more. :) They are on NT, Win2k, Solaris and Linux. Sizes range from a few gig to 450 gig. In addition, I own IT change control ( Oh joy ), and a few other goodies

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Weiss, Rick
: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio We have 4 production Oracle databases and 3 DBA's. Of course, we have additional duties as well. I spend many afternoons out at the airport as a baggage handler for Horizon Airlines. --Walt Weaver   Bo

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread DEEDSD
We have 7 DBAs. 105 production databases (97 24x7), ranging from 2 GB OLTP to 800 GB data warehouses. 395 devl/alpha/beta databases ranging in size from very small (1 GB) to production-sized. About 1/3 of the production databases have at least 1 (usually more) development effort going on at any

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio We have 4 production Oracle databases and 3 DBA's. Of course, we have additional duties as well. I spend many afternoons out at the airport as a baggage handler for Horizon Airlines. --Walt Weaver   Bozeman, Montana > -Original

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio 350 Oracle Databases spread across US and Europe. 14 full time, 4 part time. 75% of applications are designed and built in-house. -Original Message- From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:59 PM To

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
We have over 400 databases, 90%+ are Oracle under various versions, platforms. Today have 19 DBAs. Two weeks from now there will be 17. Rightsizing to continue in the 2nd Quarter - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread DEEDSD
We have 7 DBAs. 105 production databases (97 24x7), ranging from 2 GB OLTP to 800 GB data warehouses. 395 devl/alpha/beta databases ranging in size from very small (1 GB) to production-sized. About 1/3 of the production databases have at least 1 (usually more) development effort going on at any

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-12 Thread Spears, Brian
Got the overall the nitty on our ratio 15 Dbas in all 1 DBA : 200 Sqlserver databases :) ( Management loves that ratio) 10 DBA: 100 Unix Oracle Databases, 10 NT Oracle DB :) 4 DBA : 40 DB2 and 43 Teradata databases See that SQLSERVER Database ratio... show that to your boss.. make him sing Dixi

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Chuck Hamilton
You are the first reply out of at least 20 (public and private) who has a larger ratio than we do. The average seems to be somewhere around 20 so far. As many have pointed out, there are other factors to be considered if you're trying to measure the DBA's workload. I'm not trying to be that precise

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Stephane Paquette
We're 5 DBA including the team leader. We have 130 Oracle DB + 40 Sql Server 2000 + 6 DB2 mainframe. And we're doing development (data modeling ) and supposed to be involved in architecture now. Also, you should take in account if it's production or development work. Are you involved in data mode

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Jared . Still
Chuck, That's not really a good measure. It really depends on a number of things. * number of users * number of apps * size of db's * quality of apps ( some require more work than others ) * amount of new development * lots more I can't think of at the moment... Best thing to do is document th

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread James Howerton
31:1 will be 40:1 by the end of the year. I have a second guy in training as the second DBA. 3:1 oracle app servers 23 24X7 medical databases of one type or annother 8 Dev/Test databases 1 production app server 2 dev/test app servers ...JIM... >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/11/03 8:59:20 AM >>> I'm

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Scott . Shafer
SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:10 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio > > I currently have 5 development databases and 1 "beta" production database > that I administer, so that'

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread david davis
Chuck, I support 17 development, 2 production oracle databases, 3 DB2/MVS databases and 1 SQL Server. A coworker supports only 1 application and that is in UAT/Dev environment but it is a highly active application in the multi-Terabyte range (UDB). We have external prod. support for some of our

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Richard Ji
A simple num of databases to DBA ratio is quite meaningless. You need to take into consideration of at least the following: o Size of the database, transaction volume. What kind of up time your database needs to provide. o Complexity of the database and application which run on top of it.

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread DEEDSD
Consider yourself lucky. We've got a 71:1 ratio here. "Chuck Hamilton"

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
We currently have twenty-one databases, thirteen production and eight which are either test or development. Of the thirteen production databases five need to be up on a 24 X 7 basis; physics experiments and or accelerator monitoring depend on them. Nine of the production databases are Oracl

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread James Damiano
On the Oracle side there's 2 of us (myself and one other) supporting 20 databases, so that makes us 10:1. However, in addition to this there is also the IBM mainframe/Software AG Adabas side where it is my privilege to support the 5 legacy database environments by myself. Jim Damiano -- Please

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Spears, Brian
Last place I was at was 35:1 but we had top notch guys and and organized environment..The kinds of databases you have.. what kinds of work being done on them etc. the high availability and service level agreement and change control requirments. Now we have mega-sensitive instances.. needing Now w

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Todd Carlson
: RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio   27 databases to 1 dba, mixed dev, test, and prod. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 11:29AM >>> 3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : Me Craig Healey > -Original Message- > href="" PROTECTED]">mailto

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Robin Ilardi
I currently have 5 development databases and 1 "beta" production database that I administer, so that's 6:1, but I'm also the Sys Admin for these servers as well. These are also very small databases. robin -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Rachel Carmichael
volume of database structural changes (new tables, changes to existing ones) is another to add to that list --- Pete Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 33 DBA's to one database? That's pretty danged good! :) > > Seriously, this is a question that comes up every so often within > Oracle > as

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Dong, Ping - Raleigh, NC
6:2 six DBAs to one development + one testing VLDB. Good luck. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : Me Craig Healey > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Hamilton [mai

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Grant Allen
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 09:59AM >>> > I'm trying to build a case for management that we need additional DBAs > so > I'd like to take a quick poll if I may. What is the ratio of Oracle > databases to DBAs in your shop? This includes development and > production > databases. At our shop it's

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Chuck I think this is a slippery argument. It may appeal to managers but can lead to bad decisions long-term. Does anyone remember years ago when managers would measure COBOL programmers LOC (lines of code)? Just measure how many lines of code each programmer writes each day and vola! you know w

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Gene Sais
27 databases to 1 dba, mixed dev, test, and prod.>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/03 11:29AM >>>3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : MeCraig Healey> -Original Message-> href="">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 11 March 2003 14:59> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> bu

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Thomas Day
We have 10 development databases that I support directly plus 5 implementation/testing databases that I support as second level and one production snapshot datamart. 16:1 However, there are also DBAs who support each project. That would make the ratio closer to 4:1 or 3:1.

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Pete Sharman
33 DBA's to one database? That's pretty danged good! :) Seriously, this is a question that comes up every so often within Oracle as well, as clients ask Oracle employees what should be expected. There's no simple answer to it. As you might expect, the answer is "it depends". :) Depends on (a

RE: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Craig Healey
3:1 Production, Development, my personal test DB : Me Craig Healey > -Original Message- > From: Chuck Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 March 2003 14:59 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: POLL: Database to DBA ratio > > > I'm trying to build a case for ma

Re: POLL: Database to DBA ratio

2003-03-11 Thread Ron Rogers
Chuck, At this location we have a total of 5 databases and 1 DBA. Time off without an electronic teather is a thing of the past. My last location was 4 production databases with 1 DBA and a backup DBA from the development arena of 2 development databases and 1 DBA. Ron >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/1