Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-09 Thread Nuno Souto
will you CEASE to give them more ideas on how to bleed the customer base dry? You say too many, they go and create another qualification even more expensive... :D Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - > Too many. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PR

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-09 Thread Mark Leith
many. > > -- > Mladen Gogala > Oracle DBA > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:40 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread Tanel Poder
; Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:40 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam > > > > > > how many ocms are there world wide? > > > > > Note: > This me

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread Mladen Gogala
Too many. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:40 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Re: Oracle Master

Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread rgaffuri
how many ocms are there world wide? > > From: "GovindanK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/08 Mon PM 02:49:26 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Oracle Masters exam > > Congrats Tanel on becoming OCM. > > GovindanK > Certified DBA(8,8i,Brainbenc

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
That phrase "the second testing day" scares me a bit. : ) Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L what do they have you do? you set up a database where everything that can go wrong does go wrong with no access to do

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread T Nguyen
testing.. -Original Message- Pete Sharman Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Not quite. Have a look at http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/objectives/index.html?dba9 iocm_practobj.html. And you have access to the doc, but ca

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread Pete Sharman
Not quite. Have a look at http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/objectives/index.html?dba9 iocm_practobj.html. And you have access to the doc, but can't use the search functionality (that requires network access and every box is standalone so you can't log into another student's database)

Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread rgaffuri
what do they have you do? you set up a database where everything that can go wrong does go wrong with no access to documentation right? > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/08 Mon AM 09:44:27 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re:

Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-05 Thread rgaffuri
OCM is about marketing. consulting companies will use that to sell their consultants. Ive noticed that alot of employers and co-workers are more likely to listen to someone who is certified than someone who isnt. Its one of the reasons, Im getting mine. Makes it easier to get people to do what I

RE: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
The Exam Cram books are harder and harder to find, but used ones are still available. However, I believe that Pete is going to co-author my upcomming Mastering Oracle10g book from Sybex So, if you liked his style, stay tuned. RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACL

RE: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread Mladen Gogala
I don't believe that you can be an owner of a consultant. This practice was stopped, I believe, in 1865, in the Appomatox courthouse. Virgil Caine is my name and I drove on the Danville train 'til so much cavalry came and tore up the tracks again In the winter of '65, we were hungry, just

RE: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
The last National Geographic talks about slavery, it's running rampant. Jared this is getting into OT !!! Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't believe that you can be an owner of a consultant. This pract

RE: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread Pete Sharman
Still out there on Amazon, even though I don't get any royalties from it any more (since the publisher went under). It's also available for online purchase chapter by chapter (I think) on http://www.robonerd.com Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handboo

Re: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread rgaffuri
well tom kyte isnt certified and refuses to discuss it on his website. OCP is important for most people. Employers want it. Im not sure masters certification means much unless you are a principal consultant or owner of a consultant. You then use that certification to sell your company. Its the

Re: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread rgaffuri
if your on a 1099 the classes should be a business expense. dont know about the certification. so you could write off the classes. will only save people 25-28% though... > > From: April Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/04 Thu PM 12:24:35 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <

Re: RE: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-04 Thread rgaffuri
i saw some posts on the usenets that oracle has been cancelling masters exams and not refunding the money. saw a couple of posts on that. > > From: "Mladen Gogala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/04 Thu AM 11:19:30 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subjec