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Really? I had you pegged as an E given how well you organize all the NYOUG
events/people. The J part was obvious :)
Jay
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hey, I'm an infj -- according to the out placement company, I'd mak
Actually I'd think entj would be just about the ideal for a dba or sa. You
have the leadership ability to ride herd on people (such as developers), are
driven to keep up on the technical stuff, are well-organized enough to keep
track of everything...
I very aware of working against my natural in
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Oh I know. I was lucky my last job, we had two full-time DBAs (one
senior - me, and one junior/mid) and one senior DBA consultant.
I *did* look at my
hey, I'm an infj -- according to the out placement company, I'd make a
good nun (Robert, did you see my test results?)
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> FYI: SJs make up about 40% of the population (app. 10% for each
> sub-division).
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> Jay Miller
> infp (yeah, I know, what's a
Oh I know. I was lucky my last job, we had two full-time DBAs (one
senior - me, and one junior/mid) and one senior DBA consultant.
I *did* look at my boss last week and said "I no longer work 20 hour
days".
Not that I had to. He's good, he's very adamant about the fact that if
there is too much
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I once was contracted to fix an Access database that was created by the Sociology department of a major university. The forms and reports all looked very, very nice. Unfortunately the database didn't "work just right"...
Jerry Whittle
ACIFICS DBA
How about an ENTJ as a DBA and System Admin...
I'm loads of fun with a bunch of touchy feely type SP's here
at the college I work for ;-)
Joe
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> FYI: SJs make up about 40% of the population (app. 10% for each
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FYI: SJs make up about 40% of the population (app. 10% for each
sub-division).
Jay Miller
infp (yeah, I know, what's an infp doing in a technical job... :)
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That is why I use the
machini
Rachel,
you are actually proving my point - that a company does not have the luxury
(or common sense) to have more than one DBA on staff.
Robert's utopia just doesn't fly in todays world. hire one person and
work-em till they drop is the current motto.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professio
Here's the way I see it would develop:
Day one - lets' hire 2 Admin Dba's & 1 Tech Dba - cost = $20+$20+$40 =
$80/hour
One year later - stock price drops - sales are slow - damager says "save
money" - fire one Admin Dba, 2nd admin dba gets all the duties or is let go.
new cost = $20+$40=$60
Dama
>The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical
>organization
>will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they rarely have
excuse me while I wipe the Diet Coke off the screen that I spit out
when I read this. One DBA per project? Oh God that would be a luxury
beyond be
At 10:38 AM 7/22/2002 -0800, Mercadante, Thomas F wrote:
>OMG! A Socialist in the group!
The irony is it sounds idealistic but it is hard nosed capitalism.
From each according to his/her ability
To each according to his/her value.
The most successful organization will develop paradigms
to eff
OMG! A Socialist in the group!
"I believe that if we think about these things in a way that we ask
ourselves how can I maximize the potential of this person in our
organization, pay him/her a fair wage for what they can do, and free up my
time to address the really gnarly stuff we can help ou
I have been reading this list for the past several months as I prepare to
move my universe of databases from 7.3 to 9 (probably 9) and I have a rant
of my own.
It seems that the implicit expectation is that every DBA should be or
should aspire to be a Master Technical DBA.
I have a slightly di
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