Paul,
No it's more like, Hey, I heard there is a new version of the database
out, do we have it yet? Why not? Can we have it? Yeah let's do it, that
would be cool. Oh and by the way I installed a beta service pack on my
machine, that's ok right?...crap like that:)
KK
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Okay, I know some of you are going to call me crazy but here goes...
**We're now using 9i in Production**
There, I admit it. But I have to ask you this- do you think 9i will be more
buggy than the 8.1.6 that we were running that was causing core dumps,
referential integrity violations, etc.?
Good for you, David. We are moving in that direction, too. I convince
people by saying 9i is really 8.2.
Paul Baumgartel
MortgageSight Holdings, LLC
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Okay, I know
you are crazy :) but i like it anyways.
since i'm running it on a non -supported platform anything i find wouldnt
be any good anyways :)
we'll look forward to you sharing your experiences :)
joe
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Okay, I know some of you are going to call me crazy but
I am not going to say anything. That's cool, you'll find all of the bugs
and report them back to us:)
hehehe...whoo ho!!!
Just kidding Dave, good luck!!
Kev
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:41 PM
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Okay, I know
but the banner says 9.0.1 :)
joe
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Good for you, David. We are moving in that direction,
too. I convincepeople by saying 9i is really 8.2.Paul
BaumgartelMortgageSight Holdings,
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A co-worker tried 9i for a while and used automatic
rollback semgent management.
We started getting database locks on SMON.
NO ONE was on the system and we were routinely
getting system locks and ORA-600s in the middle
of the night.
We scraped the idea and moved back to 8.1.6 for our
reporting
Some people say that 8.1.7 was really the first beta release of 9i and that
Oracle called it 8.1.7 so people wouldn't be afraid to implement it as 9i.
If that's true then 9.0.1 is really the second release of 9i.
david
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To:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 09:11:56AM -0800, JOE TESTA wrote:
you are crazy :) but i like it anyways.
since i'm running it on a non -supported platform anything i find wouldnt be any
good anyways :)
we'll look forward to you sharing your experiences :)
--
What doesn't kill you will make
George, are you willing to expand on what it was, for the rest of us?
joe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/23/01 02:52PM We
just had a total database lost under 9i. Known bug, no
workaround,better-luck-next-time type situation. Luckily for us we
were testing it ona non-critical database, but that puts
what was the bug
From: George Schlossnagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: database upgrade policy?
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:52:29 -0800
We just had a total database lost under 9i. Known bug
omers as there is no
simple way out of this scenario."
Buyer beware.
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From:
JOE
TESTA
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08
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Subject: Re: database upgrade
policy?
George, are you willing to expa
be quite serious for customers as there is no simple way out of
this scenario.
Buyer beware.
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From: JOE TESTA
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: database upgrade policy?
George, are you
In the case of 816, it is desupported in October, so get to 817 ASAP.
In the case of patches, try to watch for problems noted in MetaLink. Things like
SQL*Net Demial Of Service fixes, I like to get them in right away. Otherwise, most
client make me implement if it is not broken, do not patch
George,
Can you go into details about the error please? We are starting testing on
9i, and I AM interested ...
Raj
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Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc.
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
Any opinion expressed here is
We just had a total database lost under 9i. Known bug, no workaround,
better-luck-next-time type situation. Luckily for us we were testing it on
a non-critical database, but that puts me off it for a while.
George
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George,
Can you tell us the specific problem you had that caused you the total lost
of database under 9i?
Thanks.
Bing
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:52 AM
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We just had a total database lost under 9i. Known bug, no
At 03:16 PM 8/23/2001, George Schlossnagle wrote:
DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS. A choice tidbit from the bug report:
This could be quite serious for customers as there is no simple way out
of this scenario.
i think that wins my vote for understatement of the month!;-)
--
Bill Shrek Thater
8.1.7 is no where near the likes of 9i (in my opinion), I couldn't imagine
this to be true, although I have nothing here nor there to back it up, just
a comment I feel.
Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:16:02 -0800
Sure. We seemed to be suffering from bug 1904199 or a variant. We
experienced frequent deadlocks on resources:
Sat Aug 4 08:03:21 2001
Errors in file /opt/db
If the version remained at 8.x, developers would be restricted in what they can do,
mostly bug fixes, and minor new features.
But when the versioning was changed, the software would have been checked out of 8.x
and checked into 9.x.
With a major release, the developers are free to check in
Highly depends.
I tend to stay back from the latest versions for some time.
I also tend to upgrade for functionality, and upgrade when I have existing
problems that are told to be fixed.
Sometimes if I start falling back versions and have no reason either way, I
will upgrade my development
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:45:27AM -0800, Mark Marsden wrote:
Hi Listers
I'm on 8.1.6.0.0 and wondering about upgrading to 8.1.6.3.1(?)
as I get the occasional ORA-600/ORA-7445.
Doc ID: Note:123178.1
Product / Platform: Oracle8i, Release 2 (8.1.6)
Error Correction Support ends on:
Title: RE: database upgrade policy?
Don't upgrade unless there is a very good reason.
All of these are candidates
1. current oracle version is unstable
2. specific bug addressed by an upgrade/patch, as identified by support
3. need to utilize new feature
4. desupport date coming up
We were running 8.1.6.0.0 and just recently encountered the ORA-7445 errors,
which caused core dumps and invalidated the referential integrity of our
database. Oracle recommended the 8.1.6.3 patchset. We decided to skip that
and go for 8.1.7 but for some reason Oracle mailed us the 9i CDs. I
a a glutton for punishment. Dev, sure why not, just dont let the
developers get to attached to the new features, prod?, i wouldnt update any prod
database(unless forced to by oracle corp) until 9.1 at earliest, yes there are
some kewl things, but heck the latest 8.1.7 patchset has 22
Lisa,
You need some work to do
Certifiable Gimp Monkey?? Stub you toe while swinging on the trapeze?
ROR mô¿ôm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/01 12:45PM
Don't upgrade unless there is a very good reason.
All of these are candidates
1. current oracle version is unstable
2. specific bug
Well, we wanted to upgrade from 8.0.4 to 8.1.6 last year because it had been
desupported. We got most of the machines upgraded except for the main
production machine. I wanted to upgrade that last September. I have
finally gotten permission to tentatively schedule the for next month (one
year
I have people here who just want to upgrade for the sake of
upgrading...rrggg..ok.:)
KK
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:01 PM
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Well, we wanted to upgrade from 8.0.4 to 8.1.6 last year because it had been
Just for the PLEASURE of using OUI!
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From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: database upgrade policy?
I have people here who just want to upgrade
Kevin,
What do you mean?
(running 8.1.7.2.1 on the destructo box, 8.1.7.1.5 on the development box,
W2K Pro)
Paul
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