Walt,
Thanks man, my 401K can use the boost!!
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Weaver; Walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/10/2001 8:02 AM
Well, if you're lucky enough to use the Enterprise Edition you'll be saving
money. We use the Standard
ED,
OK, looks like you've got 2 or more servers, each supporting a single DB or
are you running parallel server? I'll assume the later since that would make
more sense. Therefore, set up each listener to listen for requests on it's
hostname and port 1521 which is just about the standard. I
Alex,
This gets down to the amount of trust your damagement has in you. If they
are more tempted to listen to outside assertions that you have already heard,
then it's time to move on because your being treated like a trained monkey. My
management does ask questions on this type of subject
Dick,
Well, I've not seen the bug you describe and we have over 20
db's in one listener on several different boxes. We are in 8.1.6 on Compaq
Tru64.
We did have a problem trying to get one listener in 8.1.6 to
listed for 8.0.x and 7.3.x databases and WWS discovered that a bug they though
Kev,
A public rollback segment is immediately placed on line after creation and
is automatically picked up by the instance at startup. Consequently doing
maintenance on them is a real pain in the A&^. Private rollback segments on the
other hand have to be listed in your init.ora file to be
Anita,
True on all counts with one caveat. Transactions is derived from sessions
which is derived from processes. So in a practical world you need every public
rollback segment you have, therefore they all come online immediately. In my
case with processes = 300 that comes to 18 rollback s
Walt,
I'm going to refrain from sendign teh enire thread as it's getting BIG.
Ahyhow, No it will not be retrofitted to Oracle 8/8I. And it may or may not
be totally functional in 9.0.
Dick Goulet
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Chris,
I've been exporting data in a similar way as you since V5. The 8i version
of import still reads them without trouble.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Christopher Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 5/22/2001 7:13 AM
Take a look at Thom
Kevin!!!
Li,
In reality Access does have a file size limit, but I believe it is much
lower than 1GB. Regrettably there is no way around it, except as Kevin stated
to use a pass through query to Oracle. One should understand that Access is
designed as a single user system that gets bastardiz
LI,
Great idea, wonder where that came from! Just DON'T push the table
definitions from Access into Oracle via Access. else you'll have objects that
are a nightmare to access forever.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Li; Xiangli" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
We like the troublemakers here!!
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Author: "Speaks; Chuck W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 5/25/2001 8:21 AM
Sounds great. I am a Lazy DBA refugee and I must say that I like the tone
and banter on this list a lot better. I'll be talking
When Chuck Speaks people listen! I couldn't resist the play on words.
ROR mô¿ôm
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 01:52PM >>>
We like the troublemakers here!!
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Author: "Speaks; Chuck W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 5/25/2001 8:21 AM
--
P
I've been working in Oracle for 4 years and Access for 6 years, and
can assure you that for Access 97 (size limit is 1 g), Access 2000
(size limit is 2 g), Access 2002 (size limit is 4g). I've had 500 mg
database that work fine in a multiuser environment, however if there
is a need for a enterpri
Back in the V6 days it was a desired characteristic to have every thing in the
first extent of an object for performance reasons. Thankfully those days are
gone and it really does not matter how many extents there are. Rachel has a
presentation on Oracle Myths where she actually portrays having
something along those lines...
as with everything there is no real black or white on this... but
transactional systems that do a lot of small (non-sequential) reads you
are better off with lots of extents while data warehouses are often
better off with fewer extents as the reads tend to be sequen
I would content that the moment the extent size is
greater than SSTIOMAX (or whatever the OS can
service), then you won't see any benefit from fewer
extents even on data warehouse - the only exception I
can think is if you were lucky enough to be the only
user on a particular disk/volume during th
Jared & Gene,
Any backup strategy that gives me more than one recovery option is viable in
my mind. Consequently I use a mix of hot and cold backups as well as keeping my
archive logs around for a long while. At least as long as the oldest cold
backup.
Dick Goulet
Repl
Ok, my backup strategy:
1) Prod Db's - Cold backups semi-weekly to disk. Then off to tape. Export backups
(full) daily to disk, keep 7 days on disk. Archive log mode and arcs backed up to
tape daily and flushed from archive filesystem with monitoring script. Typically keep
40 days worth on d
Yesterday I was at my local OfficeMax where I found a copy of XP Home edition
for $467.00US and Professional for $867.00US. I had a good laugh on my way out
too!!
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Jesse; Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10/29/2001
Alan,
One of the reasons that we have not started using NETAPP with our Oracle
DB's is that you should have a dedicated network connection between the server
and the appliance. This can take the form of a network cable between the
network card and the appliance or a dedicated VLAN. If you d
Guy,
Not as problem, I've been called a whole lot worse in the past. Also, nice
piece if info on the old monks, and yeah that is one heck of a DB recovery or
more likely a resurrection.
Now to your point, when the datafile/tablespace gets dropped Oracle first
off won't let you simply dr
Jesse & company,
Might I ask how many of you who've had a problem with MetaStink have taken
the time to file a TAR with customer service on Metalink? I know I've filed 5
in the last week. The squeaky wheel normally gets the grease!
Dick Goulet
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Netrusov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Well, Since I started this I guess I'll wade back in, but I'll save
everyone some bandwidth in the process.
To Jaques (sorry I don't think I spelled that right) point and Mike's too
most of the rotten third party software I've seen does have a BAD management
team behind it in one way or
Mladen,
Well, hold onto your b&^t because about a year ago I read about a certain
Navy Aircraft carrier that was headed back to port because their MicroSlop
SQL*Server DB had irreparably crashed. I understand it was replaced by "another
vendor's DB". Wonder who that could have been?
Dick G
Kevin,
With the COTS (that's Commercial Off The Shelf) mentality that is permeating
the military procurement system, stranger things have happen!! Believe me, I've
seen them.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Kevin Kostyszyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
D
Ajay's going to try that one too, and we are going to get 5 more mails ! :))
> --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:27 AM
> To: Ajay Jain; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re
Steve,
Thanks for reminding me of that one other operation that does also take up
temp. Again, I think that depends on how often you calculate statistics & if
your using partitioning. We do statistics once a week, and do it partition by
partition so it does not take up that much.
Dick Goul
Patrice,
I just read that from IBM's WEB site
(http://www.ibm.com/news/2001/04/24.phtml) for those interested. Looks like the
DB market in the near future will be Oracle & DB2, with a little SQL*Server
sprinkled in for spice. My retirement fund may get better, but will I be able
to survive
So isn't PostGres, but neither is a close competitor.
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Author: "Gene Sais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 4/24/2001 1:28 PM
hmmm, mysql is free, best price of all.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/01 04:27PM >>>
At 10:46 AM 4/24/01 -0800, you w
true, but when cost is the decisive factor w/ a startup, go with the one of the
freebies. if the company was too cheap to buy the right product, time to find a
company w/ deeper pockets. now w/ ibm buying informix, merging w/ db2, they will have
a new product called db4mix :). the free db's
I also was informed during the iTAR process that they will support a centralized
repository, but you'll have to wait till 10i for it. Heck I've haven't gotten a
play instance of 9i up yet. 10i, maybe by 2010!!! I really don't want to wait
that long!!
Dick Goulet
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As I said, use mssql ONLY if your boss is willing to be strapped into a
MicroSlop only platform. If he's even remotely thinking of using a different OS
then you can't use mssql.
Dick Goulet
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Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/23/2002 1
Come on now Mark. Get up on your soapbox & hand us the sales pitch. *-)
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11/1/2002 1:33 AM
I could give you a great little list, but that would kind of defeat my job
purposes
Paul,
If your into all that fatty food that the French like (like I do, OOPS my
roots are showing) Then you NEED all that alcohol to keep the "plumbing clean".
Now, if you don't mind I'm off to home for some Foigra and Wine!! Sauteed in
Butter to boot!!
Dick Goulet
Rep
David,
Just like beauty, winning or loosing in a lawsuit is in the eye of the
beholder. Actually in MicroSlop's case it was the justice department that
bailed and more than likely King George who sat on the judge. You got to love
those political action committees and their BIG donors!! In p
Raj,
I needed a 12 pack adter this one, it's from PeopleSlop:
SELECT 0001560265,OPL.BUSINESS_UNIT,OPL.PRODUCTION_ID,OPL.OP_SEQUENCE,
PID.INV_ITEM_ID,TMP.COST_ELEMENT,'04',0,0,0,0,0,0,PID.ORIG_UOM,PID.PRDN_AREA_COD
E,
PID.PRODUCTION_TYPE,OPL.QTY_SCRAPPED,OPL.PERCENT_COMP,' ',1,0,' ','
Good old Duct Tape, the "handyman's secret weapon"!!
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Author: Stephen Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 3/20/2003 6:34 AM
> -Original Message-
> Did you learn anything from the previous crash to prevent it from
> happening again?
>
Santosh,
If that's what your after I'd suggest you get into WEB development mode.
Using Access means using ODBC which means installing the Oracle client. Take a
look at ColdFusion, or 9IAS or some Java based approach. In any case your going
to need a WEB server and browser on the client sid
Oh Stephane, your such a woos. I absolutely hate the OCI interface, talk about
a place to blow your head off! 99.9% of the time that the C compiler tosses
a fur ball is something you've done in C that is wrong, although I'll admit is
sometimes gets real hairy trying to find it. If the Proc p
I will admit to getting mine simply as part of an ego trip. I figured that
after 15 years of being an developer/DBA with Oracle I should have one. Has it
made a difference to my salary or employment potential? Not one bit.
Dick Goulet
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Aut
Dennis,
Allow me to add another item to the pile from the OLD days. Back in SQL*Net
V1 it was recommended to select a database name/SID that was "case insensitive".
That restriction/recommendation was due to older DOS based clients that handled
all of that sort of data as upper case. Theref
Sony and Gary,
Null is a "special" condition of data. A data point cannot equal or not
equal null, therefore 'like' and 'not like' also does not work as neither is
true. Therefore SQL recognizes 'null' and 'not null' for the purpose of
evaluating nulls. Consider the null state as being the
It is not an expensive query.It runs really fast without the primary
key in production but
we dont have this problem in the test instance.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:04:42 -0800
>Even stranger is, that you expect us to solve your
Jesse,
Is this 8.1.6? If so there's a bug filed against dbms_stats.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Jesse; Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/16/2002 12:24 PM
Nope. 1 PM just like it should, only every day instead of every week. I've
tri
Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:36 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re:RE: (Fwd/2)
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Apple is still trying to compete with MicroSlop & having
> a hard time of it
> as well. I believe Apple's major problem competing is t
Hold on does that mean that since I never learned
it, I should just wait for the new one? :)
Will it support 8.1.7 in client-server mode? :):)
(Or "just" Oracle9i?)
regards,
ep
On 22 Jul 2002 at 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> YUP, Saw the new version at an Oracle event in Boston a c
You can get a color laser printer cheaper than that.
besides RTFM, is there going to now be PTFM?
On 22 Jul 2002 at 12:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Patrice,
>
> You can still get them, you just have to order them seperatly at a platinum
> plated cost. Last time I looked is was $1500 p
I kinfa hate to admit it, but I'm one of those who has not embrased RMAN. More
out of lack of time to investigate than anything else, but to make real use of
it here I need to intergrate it with OmniBack, which requires a database relink.
And getting the databases away from the end users long en
Ian,
You have run into something that I've seen in the past which is a
performance problem, but which is not caused by a bad BHR. What I have noticed
are PeopleSoft queries, done by their query tool(YUCK), that have all of their
data in memory and are just spinning around and around the same
One should alos remember that on some products Oracle has a minimum number of
users, If you don't have that many, well too bad!!
Dick Goulet
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Author: Steven Lembark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 8/14/2002 6:08 AM
-- John Weatherman <[EM
Scott,
vi, your dinosaur side is showing!! *-)
Dick Goulet
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Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8/15/2002 8:38 AM
vi or vim.
Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217
> -Original Message-
> From: Place for oracle [SMTP:[EM
Scott,
Dinosaur? When you have a good product it stays around for lng
time.
The complaints that I have with TOAD is that the pl/sql packages when
converted to text have a lot of white space due to the formatting.
Designer is not as bad but still has white space. I like to have the
developers
Also it helps to use "create or replace" instead of drop and create. First it's
one statement vs two and second it retains any grants.
Dick Goulet
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Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 8/27/2002 2:24 PM
Eric
set long 20
Well, since someone else cares to mention it, I do use Procedure Builder,
Oracle's PL/SQL development tool from Developer and I like it a lot. The latest
version even does syntax highlighting, indentation, and "click on the error &
I'll show you where it is".
Dick Goulet
Rep
Jared,
The limit on the number of extents in earlier versions was due directly to
how many extent locators could be stored in the first block of an object. The
bigger the block, the more extent locators that could be stored.
Dick Goulet
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Dave,
First, hope your father gets better fast. Sounds like you could use some
good news. But now that you found out about "database recovery in the hot seat"
give the network admin the "You'sa in a deep doo-doo now" for not having done
his/her part.
Dick Goulet
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Chris,
True, but you can't transport them across OS platforms.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Christopher Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 8/15/2001 6:56 AM
Hense transportable tablespaces.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mil
Peter,
Please allow me to disagree. I came from the USAF with a very deep love for
DEC hardware and software (VAX/VMS), only to be VERY disappointed by them when I
was presented with DEC Ultrix. Their straying into the Unix world was a real
nightmare. First off their sales folks over sold
Guess we had different experiences. OSF was being
replaced in favor of digital unix when I started my
sys admin days on DECs. They were also Oracle's
preferred platform at the time. Things have changed a
lot since then.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Please allow me to disagre
I never saw Ultrix but have heard other horror stories on this list and
elsewhere.
My first exposure to Dec was in '93 on the brand new Alpha's running openVMS.
64 bit and VLM long before any other vendor (and long before Oracle supported
64 bit, unfortunately)...and if the DEC wire-heads I wo
I worked w/ ultrix, was horrendous! Dec OSF/1 never took off, better than Ultrix but
bad unix. Then came Digital Unix, not bad, but still not the best. But I did like
the advanced filesystem, esp. cloning filesets, great for quick backups!
Gene
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/02 03:13PM >>>
I n
Brian,
Wasn't that before the merger annopuncement? At a somewhat recent Oracle
get together they said they were working with HP and Red Hat to get a shared
filesystem developed so that RAC could run without raw devices. Compaq's TRU64
already had it. Wonder where HP thought they'd get the
Rich,
I'm sure they will, some sort of merge of TRU64 and HP-UX. Now, IF we get
the best of both OS's we'll probably have a real good end product.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Jesse; Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 6/12/2002 6:43 AM
I
Fawzia,
I'm going to disagree with just about everybody on this one. Assuming, and
that is a BIG assumption, that the parent and child relationships have been
properly established there is no real good reason not to use 'on delete
cascade'. I've one &^%$ duhveloper who does not want to use
Raj,
Thanks for the help, but in this case I need to first wash a little egg off
of my face. The problem here was at least was easily recoverable. What had
happen was we moved a database instance from one machine to another. It's
cheaper to run two instances on one box that pay Oracle for
John,
First question, is this the first extproc listener that you've setup on this
server? If your configuring a second, you can't really do that as there can be
one and only one extproc_connection_data entry in your tnsnames.ora file. What
you need in this case is a new library that points
Ian,
Good points. ALthough running extproc under TCP is NOT supported by Oracle,
it will work.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "MacGregor; Ian A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/8/2002 4:28 PM
Some security and Intermedia tips:
Make sure the
Correct!
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Author: Ken Janusz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11/20/2001 12:20 PM
Here is a typical piece of code from the DDL SQL script that creates an
index. It appears that the tablespace used for indexes is SOS2_TBLSPC.
Correct?
Ken
In our shop we've tried the cross training tact. Problem was that those who
accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the kitchen.
Damn!!!
Dick Goulet
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Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Of course Ross. How else do we know how long sadists like you are at work??
:-)
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Mohan; Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12/28/2001 12:55 PM
LoL timed sadistics
-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, Dece
While the damage here has already been done, it should be a point of caution for
us all. I make a point of dropping the tablespace in Oracle first followed by
judicious use of the 'fuser' command in HP-UX to see that all processes have
released the file. Now you know it's deletable. BTW: anyone
ubject: Re:RE: dropped datafile problem
While the damage here has already been done, it should be a point of
caution for
us all. I make a point of dropping the tablespace in Oracle first
followed by
judicious use of the 'fuser' command in HP-UX to see that all processes
have
r
Ross,
You've got to define hum. A relay that is run off of an AC current can have
a VERY faint hum. A relay that is running on AC current when designed for DC
current has a distinctive 'hum' sometimes more similar to a high speed clicking.
Also a relay that has a coil nearing the end of it
Lisa,
I wil agree with Tom, unless this is a dry run for a real database that you
have to migrate. In that case I would migrate this test area just for the
experience.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Dat
Mark,
Just yanking your chain, and for some reason I just could not resister
applying the extra effort!! I'll send your head back via FedEx overnight!! :-)
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 3/1/2002 2:4
We say that disk is cheap, but that is a relative term. Yes an individual drive
may be inexpensive, but if your using anykind or raid or mirroring (as we are)
then each GB of space is twice as expensive as the individual part because you
need two drives. Also, don't forget the cost of backing up
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:RE: Disk is cheap?
First, Lisa, welcome back on line. I regret to say that I did not notice until
someone mentioned it in a previous reply at which time I had to remove the
baseball bat from the face! :-)
Second as to OraStaff. I replied to one of their posts only to have Bill reply
that it was really a SQL*Serve
Anyone else ever hear about them? According to the web site that have '4
million users'. Seems that would have left a mark somewhere at that level.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Jesse; Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 3/21/2002 1:58 PM
Yeah,
Jon,
Wrong. You must license the second server identically to the original. The
reason is that a standby database can be used as a read only copy of the
original.
Dick Goulet
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Author: Jon Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 4/2/2002
yep... but it's because the database is being used, even if you don't
use it for read-only the fact that the executables are running and
the database is mounted is why you need the license.
Now, if you have a copy of all the files, and the executables on
another machine, but DON'T run anythin
I have to agree with Rich, We've used ONS from 7.3, 8.0, and now 8.1 and their
never down, unless something catastrophic happens. But then we've got a cluster
of 4 ONS servers, 2 at each campus for redundancy purposes.
Dick Goulet
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Author:
True, Dynamic discovery has been around since 7.3 I believe, but in my
experience it has not been fault free.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Hillman; Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/17/2001 8:50 AM
In 8i you do not need to include services
We switched to ONS 3 years ago & have never regretted it. Getting rid of the
tnsnames.ora file was the berries.
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Page; Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/23/2001 7:52 AM
One method I have seen used a lot is to se
except that ONS is going away in favor of ldap.
joe
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 12:58PM >>>We
switched to ONS 3 years ago & have never regretted it. Getting rid of
thetnsnames.ora file was the berries.Dick
GouletReply SeparatorAuthor:
"Page; Br
Lisa,
SQL*Loader in direct path can cause you storage problems since it always
appends to the table(s) ignoring blocks on the free block list. I found that
out after a developer was using it for our data warehouse. At the end of a year
he had burned almost 100GB of disk & it kept increasing
Truncation was the solution in this case as I observed in the past that
direct load option use empty blocks above HWM thus using lot of space above
it. If it is possible target table should be truncated before such loads...
Regards
MOHAMMAD RAFIQ
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To: Multiple re
Tom,
Wish it was a joke, but this is the second year that they've brought it up.
Last time we silenced them by buying a new server license. Personally I believe
they're using that tactic on customers who go several years (two or more)
without adding to their licenses.
Dick Goulet
Tony,
That's interesting! The books look pretty good, I'll have to order a set,
but that CD-ROM is kindof pricey ($300.00), isn't it?
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Aponte; Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 7/27/2001 10:57 AM
Wiley ( www.w
I downloaded VNC sometime ago. Works very nicely, especially on NT servers
instead of PC Anywhere. Haven't tried the Unix variants though. One irratating
habit it has is on screen refresh for windows not in the foreground/active.
Dick Goulet
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What do you want, that I should call a spade a spade? ;-)
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Author: Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 5/10/2001 11:26 AM
Thanks, Dick, for writing "I've been given a project..." rather than "I've
been tasked...".
--
Please see
Chris,
Humm, did not think that was clear, but!! We started using export to
extract data from our operational data store back in 92 with Oracle Version 5 to
tape. These files, copied now to CD's are still usable with Oracle 8i. That's
10 years and no problems. If I can depend on something
Matt,
I know I read that somewhere and yes it could also have referenced a
different OS. If I manage to find the reference I'll happily share it with the
rest of the group, I'm just so in vacation mode right now that I really don't
give a *&^%. But, I will admit that the docs on MetaLink sa
Jon,
One correction, shutdown immediate waits till all uncommitted transactions
are committed or rolled back. The client session must do one or the other,
otherwise the shutdown hangs waiting for the end user. This is a good example
of where setting the idle time in user_profiles is a good
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> One correction, shutdown immediate waits till all uncommitted
> transactions are committed or rolled back. The client session must
> do one or the other, otherwise the shutdown hangs waiting for the
> end user.
No, that's shutdown transactional.
For those who have not heard, one of the towers, I believe the south one, has
collapsed. I dare to say that someone else's skyline will be different in the
next 48 hours as well. Guess the members of the list who are based in New York
will be silent for a couple of days.
Dick Goulet
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silent hell. New Yorkers are resilient
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: ORACLE.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re:RE: STOP THE PRESS!!
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:25:25 -0800
>
>For those who have not heard, one of the
John,
Are you crossing the F-117's with the A-10's? The Thunderbolt was designed
as a tank killer, especially with that 30MM cannon in the nose. The Stealth's
are for the purposes of getting into heavily radar monitored areas without being
seen. Sadly they are a joke around Air Force One b
I regret to say that today's events may well trigger a lot of bad responses.
>From individuals to governments. No doubt there will be some hate related
incidents against Arab background folks in the US, GOD I hope it's nothing more
than an incident. Those who are behind the attacks are no doubt
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