RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-23 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence Jonathan, The inserts were into a staging table.   After the staging table was loaded into the live tables, they were using delete and not truncate to flush the staging table.   So of course the table and index were acquiring an

Re: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-23 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Just as a side-line observation - when I realised that the problem should have been with the sequence, I set up a small test on a multi-CPU box to run multiple concurrent copies of: begin for i in 1..10 loop insert into t1 values (test_seq.nextval); end loop;

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-23 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence If I stated dc_segments in my original post, I apologize, I *did* mean to say dc_sequences.   At any rate, as usual, the problem was poor application code. The row cache lock no longer shows up as one of the top 5 wait events per

Re: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-22 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Correct - I was sure that I had a set of test results to prove my point, but I didn't - so I've just run a series of tests on enqueue and buffer busy waits on an 8.1.7.4 system and you are absolutely right - the seconds_in_wait does not reset as the wait completes. Thanks, Jonathan Lewis

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-21 Thread Cary Millsap
__January 21/23 The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html > >-Original Message- >From: Khedr, Waleed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 20 December 2002 21:

Re: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-21 Thread Jonathan Lewis
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RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Khedr, Waleed
You are nice person. I still think the problem was mainly a sequence problem. regards, Waleed -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/20/02 9:43 PM And I was unlucky :( Cache id 13 is dc_sequences on 8i and 9i versions of oracle, so I guessed shared pool s

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
And I was unlucky :( Cache id 13 is dc_sequences on 8i and 9i versions of oracle, so I guessed shared pool shortage, if latch waits did not point to SQ enqueue... - Kirti -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 3:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It matches t

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence Thanks for the replies.   And, good guess Jonathan. We've already made some changes to the stored procedure implementing the INSERT statement. Upon investigation, I found that the table involved is used as a staging table

Re: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lewis
It matches to the cache# in v$rowcache. I have to say that I seem to have got to a suitable conclusion by mistake. The OP quoted cache id 13, and said it references dc_segments - hence my suggestion about small extents. In fact cache id = 2 is dc_segments, and cache id = 13 is dc_sequences (at

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Wong, Bing
Title: RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence Let me guess - they did not say sorry to you. -Original Message-From: Thomas Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:21 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Row cache locks on

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence It looks like a blame game!   You mentioned many changes: truncate, dropping the use of sequence,  etc.   So which one was it?   :)   Waleed -Original Message-From: Thomas Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Khedr, Waleed
What does it mean "cache id 13" ? Regards, Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If the wait times on the latch were significant, I think I'd check that the inserts were high volume inserts into tables with a very

Re: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Jonathan Lewis
If the wait times on the latch were significant, I think I'd check that the inserts were high volume inserts into tables with a very small extent sizes and lots of indexes, also with very small extents. I wouldn't have thought it was anything to do with sequences. Regards Jonathan Lewis http:/

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence You are waiting on locks for the dictionary cache dc_sequences (cache id = 13).  Increasing how many sequences are cached may not help.  If sequence caching were the problem, you would seen waits for latch free event (for sequence cache

RE: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Title: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence It looks like sequence generation & caching rate is slower than your insertion rate.   Waleed -Original Message-From: Thomas Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of

Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence

2002-12-20 Thread Thomas Jeff
Title: Row cache locks on INSERTs with a sequence We are continually seeing sessions hanging on row cache locks, which in turn appear to be on dc_segments:  SID EVENT  P1TEXT P1 P2TEXT   P2 P3TEXT    P3 - - -- -- -- -    29