RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-03 Thread Raghu Kota (WBTQ)
Title: Message may best brains survive where ever it is. -Original Message-From: Anjan Thakuria [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:34 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret Thank you

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-03 Thread Anjan Thakuria
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RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-03 Thread Jared . Still
;         cc:                 Subject:        RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret Hi All DBA's all here hmm...well if i were the CFO i would have been lookin for the fast=true parameter if i were bald i would have been looking for a pill or a cream that would give me hairs overnight..the time of in

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-02 Thread Jared Still
> > On 10/30/2003 03:04:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > The perception of outsourcing has been that you > > > can send your work > > > > offshore, > > > > and get it done cheaper, with higher quality

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-02 Thread hrishy
gt; > > > > I think that this article helps to dispel that > as > > a myth. It may or may > > > not be > > > less expensive, it may or may not be better. > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-02 Thread Newhouse Eric A AFMC/ITON
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 10/30/2003 09:49 AM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list > ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Subject:

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-02 Thread Pettinato
be better. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jamadagni, Rajendra" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 10/30/2003 09:49 AM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > >

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-11-01 Thread hrishy
Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jamadagni, Rajendra" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 10/30/2003 09:49 AM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple re

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret - Bigger Picture

2003-10-31 Thread Cunningham, Gerald
myth. It may or > may > not be > less expensive, it may or may not be better. > > Jared > > > > > > "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 10/30/2003 09:49 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L >

Outsourcing's dirty secret - Bigger Picture

2003-10-30 Thread Bellow, Bambi
gt; > I think that this article helps to dispel that as a myth. It may or may > not be > less expensive, it may or may not be better. > > Jared > > > > > > "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 10/30/200

Re: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
> > > > > > "Jamadagni, Rajendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 10/30/2003 09:49 AM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROT

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret not only salries, but job opportunities as well:-) greg -Original Message- From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Outsourcing's di

Re: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret > > > What is also unfortunate that the company X which outsourced its project > to India, didn't do

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread April Wells
Same is true for getting the 'cheapest' price for a project that just requires a contractor to work in house.  SOMETIMES you get what you pay for, and (from what I understand) occasionally what you deserve.   April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas   /\  /   \

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread Jared . Still
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  10/30/2003 09:49 AM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret What is also unfortuna

RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
What is also unfortunate that the company X which outsourced its project to India, didn't do its job right ... If you just want the cheapest Rolex, you can't complain about its quality later on. I am not saying this couldn't have happened, whatever happened is unfortunate, but I am just saying t

Outsourcing's dirty secret

2003-10-30 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
List - If a manager seems to be contemplating outsourcing, you might want to post this. Unless you work for an outsourcer. ;-) http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/Hidden_Costs_of_IT_Outso urcing.html Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the officia

OS-dependent parameters (was: Secret maximum for INITRANS?)

2002-03-05 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I sometimes think that every os-dependent parameter in Oracle is secret. Oracle doesn't publish that information, and the OS vendors usually have no idea or are not likely to publish that info either. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin & O

Re[2]: Secret maximum for INITRANS?

2002-03-05 Thread Robert Eskridge
mething out there RE> that would limit the Itl entries to 41 even when MAXTRANS=255? Is RE> there some secret bound based on block size? Ours is 2k (which I RE> figure is part of the problem). RE> Other vital stats: 8.0.5 on Solaris 2.7. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: htt

Re: Secret maximum for INITRANS?

2002-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis
I've found the note. It wasn't what I remembered, it was worse. I've just re-run a test on 9.0.1.2 that shows an interesting issue: create table t1 (n1 number, v1 varchar2(10)); create index i1 on t1(n1) pctfree 0 initrans 10; insert into t1 select rownum,'x' from all_objects where rownum <=

Re: Secret maximum for INITRANS?

2002-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Nice to know the actual strategy. I came across an oddity some time ago when trying to work this one out by setting silly values for INITRANS. This would be (correctly) ignored on a 'create index', and then obeyed on a 'rebuild index' with the result that the index got bigger. I think it was 8

RE: Secret maximum for INITRANS?

2002-03-04 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
S to 50 to see which one(s) made a difference. None of them made a difference. So I dumped blocks that had been populated only during this exercise. Invariably, there were 0x29 Itl slots. Is there something out there that would limit the Itl entries to 41 even when MAXTRANS=255? Is there some s

Secret maximum for INITRANS?

2002-03-04 Thread Robert Eskridge
50 to see which one(s) made a difference. None of them made a difference. So I dumped blocks that had been populated only during this exercise. Invariably, there were 0x29 Itl slots. Is there something out there that would limit the Itl entries to 41 even when MAXTRANS=255? Is there some secret boun

Re: SECRET

2001-04-09 Thread Cyril Thankappan
Hi! Man , I should say that I am 'surprised'.. cos we were on WAS 3.0.2 and had 'severe problems' (the webserver used to hang during business hours) and Oracle suggested we upgrade to IAS how come u are able to 'run' WAS without Oracle 'support&#x