Whilst not disagreeing with the practical outworkings of what you, and others, have
been saying for a while now I think that I disagree with the statement that tuning, or
indeed database management more generally is 'science'. I think that the correct term
is 'engineering'. In case this is just
I like this - it nearly fits in, give or take a little
flexibility in interpretation, with my comments:
Tuning (engineering) is what you do before the system goes live
Trouble-shooting (science) is what you do after the system goes
live
Regards
Jonathan Lewis
Here' my fave...
1) DBA's are to create simple easy to follow with ample documentation..
with infrastructure work. In the long run it serves the company well
as well as your fellow dba's trying to support your work at 3:00am.
2) The work should be developed with a corporate perspective as
With the advent of quantum microbiology and the
like, most informed
people agree that 21st medicine is a science.
However, medicine as
practiced in the 17th century was definitely an
art, not a science. The
argument that tuning is an art--that it is
subjective like a
symphony or like cooking--is
I have to agree that it was the most entertaining Oracle presentation I have
ever seen - and yet with lots of good stuff to take with you home from a
guy who knows a lot about Oracle. Please re-consider your decision to move
to Australia, Connor. Come back.
Connor McDonald wrote:
"Connor
The only thing wrong with President Wilson's advice is that exceptional
oratory skill can, in the short term, overcome some pretty horrendous
content deficiencies. I do have faith enough in free people to believe
that in the long term, the truth wins.
Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
And to the credit of Woodrow Wilson - The wisest thing to do with a fool
is
to encourage him to hire a hall and discourse to his fellow citizens.
Nothing chills nonsense like exposure to air.
Interesting quote. It's funny, I do present with some frequency, and I
stress out
about it every time
Yes, but WHO's truth. Truth is a three sided sword, your side, my side
and
The edge.. Truth is, unfortunately, subjective Point in case,
politics. :-)
RF
Robert G. Freeman
Technical Management Consultant
TUSC - The Oracle Experts www.tusc.com
904.708.5076 Cell (It's everywhere
Connor corollary to Wilson theory...
"The truth will out...especially when demonstrated with free beer!"
Freeman Robert - IL wrote:
And to the credit of Woodrow Wilson - "The wisest thing to do with a fool
is
to encourage him to hire a hall and
This reminds me of the paper I wrote for American Goverment in high school.
I don't recall the author, but the gist was that Free Speech must not be
impeded, because in the end, the Truth will prevail.
Very well said. Thank you Cary.
Cary Millsap wrote:
The only thing wrong with President
Facts can have different truths only when those facts are filtered
through the lenses of contradictory value judgments. Politics is an
*excellent* example: lots of people describe themselves as believing in
equality. However, one political sector believes that equality means
equality of
Connor does a much better job of presenting than I
do.
Translation: Connor waves his arms about, swears more
and uses a little more BS, gives beer to attendees
--- Freeman Robert - IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And to the credit of Woodrow Wilson - The wisest
thing to do with a fool
is
to
I'm curious as to an explanation on don't #1 (what constitutes
reorganization?) and what is ASSM for don't #5? Assembly???
Rich
Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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I'm curious as to an explanation on don't #1 (what constitutes
reorganization?) and what is ASSM for don't #5? Assembly???
Rich
Rich Jesse
A... but in my world view, DBA's need to THINK like developers, since we
are always the ones who the real SQL tuning gets pushed down to. Also, DBA's
often are called on to design the database, and when views are brought to
them to create they need to ask themselves, is this really a good
E! That icky LMT option? Ick! Ick! Ick!
Thx!
Rich
Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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Care to share why...?
Robert G. Freeman
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904.708.5076 Cell (It's everywhere that I am!)
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* SHOCK *
You mean someone disagrees with *ME*
Horrors the world is soon to come to an end!!
:-))
RF
Robert G. Freeman
Technical Management Consultant
TUSC - The Oracle Experts www.tusc.com
904.708.5076 Cell (It's everywhere that I am!)
Author of several books you can find on
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