Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-27 Thread Vladimir Begun
Shaleen Def.Rights: Roles can be enabled or disabled -- an unit must not be dependent on the enabled/disabled roles. There is nothing bad to have such design. This design is well thought, IMHO. At least at it's [was] consistent [on the moment of its invention]. Inv.right Due to the context switch

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
That would be Mary-Ann Davidson. I'll ask her. Mogens Jared Still wrote: This is in conflict with what a few Oracle folks have said. Interesting. I guess you'd have to ask the oracle security architect to get the full story. Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 12:39, Khedr, Waleed wrote:

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-26 Thread Jared Still
This is in conflict with what a few Oracle folks have said. Interesting. I guess you'd have to ask the oracle security architect to get the full story. Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 12:39, Khedr, Waleed wrote: > This may be more convincing: > > http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml

RE: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --Resolved

2002-12-26 Thread Henry Poras
> > Please let me know if I am missing something here. > > Thanks > Shaleen > > - Original Message - > From: "Jared Still" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Shaleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesd

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-26 Thread Shaleen
Hmm. Makes sense. Thanks Tim. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:34 PM > I don't agree that anyone "shirked". Roles are, by design, changeable > within a session. The SET ROLE command is not DDL, alteri

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-26 Thread Tim Gorman
I don't agree that anyone "shirked". Roles are, by design, changeable within a session. The SET ROLE command is not DDL, altering the metadata of the database. Instead, it is only altering already-granted permissions to used subsequently by the session. So, why should "permanent" objects (such

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-26 Thread Shaleen
Thanks Waleed. For the first time I have understood the reason behind this. Which is, "Larry shirked"!! "The reason why roles are disabled in stored procedures is not due to the roles themselves, but has to do with the dependency model. If roles were enabled in stored procedures, Oracle would n

RE: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-26 Thread Khedr, Waleed
This may be more convincing: http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab ase_id=NOT&p_id=1031418.6 regards, Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L --Resolved jared, Thanks for expla

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --Resolved

2002-12-26 Thread Jared Still
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Shaleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a > procedure --Resolved > > > Shaleen, > > > > This i

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --Resolved

2002-12-26 Thread Shaleen
jared, Thanks for explanation. Still not convinced because of following two reasons 1) Same scenario can happen with explicit privileges as well. User A grants ALL privileges on MY_TABLE to B without GRANT OPTION. Now B can create a stored procedure to do DML on MY_TABLE and grant execute permiss

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --Resolved

2002-12-25 Thread Jared Still
Shaleen, This is done to preserve security. User A owns a table MY_TABLE. Role A_STUFF allows insert, select, update, delete on A.MY_TABLE. grant insert,select,update,delete on MY_TABLE to A_STUFF; ( note that the role was not granted admin privs on the table ) User B is granted role A_STUF

Re: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-25 Thread garg
still dont agree with this concept.   my 02 cents   -Shaleen - Original Message - From: Jamadagni, Rajendra To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: RE: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure

RE: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --

2002-12-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
-From: Shaleen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --Resolved All,   Oracle support was able to resolve this issue for me and I would like to shar

unable to create stored outline for sql inside a procedure --Resolved

2002-12-24 Thread Shaleen
All,   Oracle support was able to resolve this issue for me and I would like to share the learning. The problem was that I was unable to create stored outline for sql executing within a stored procedure after turning create_stored_outlines=true. Create outlines for sql satetements executing f