Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread gottfried
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 nOn Sat, 23 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, At about $800.00 AUD (roughly=$395.00 USD) I'd forget all about idea ... what about some ide's with sensible prices? I realised JBuilder was a waste of time after using it for years, and

Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread Fredrik Lindgren
Did you actually try it out or did you just check the prices? If you spend more than one hour a day writing java, I would say that IDEA is worth that money, even if it has to come from my own pockets. Naturally I would always try to get someone else to pay for it, such as my employer, but that

Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread Joseph Ottinger
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At about $800.00 AUD (roughly=$395.00 USD) I'd forget all about idea ... what about some ide's with sensible prices? I realised *looks at from header, notes orion-interest* Um, dude... you're using a commercial product. Why? Typically, because the

Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread joel.morris
I use Visual Slick Edit ant really like it. It is pretty simple, supports vi, emacs, cua, etc... emulation, does tagging for java, jsp, html, xml, c/c++, and syntax highlighting. One thing I really like is that it doesn't lock you in to a certain JDK, you can install a new JDK and re-create

RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread Marc Rabil
I have been following this discussion with much interest since I recently set out to re-evaluate Java IDEs - particularly for J2EE. Based on the recent JDJ poll located here: http://www.sys-con.com/java/readerschoice2002/liveupdate.cfm?cat=J2EE it would seem that a lot of folks like JBuilder.

RE: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread Clay Mitchell
I personally have been using idea for a couple weeks - It's a great app. The price is a little over the top - $400? Sorry, but I don't have the extra cash to pony up for it - as for work, JBuilder is the standard, so that's not an option. I've used a lot of them - Jbuilder, Forte, NetBeans, but I

AW: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread Bernhard Broo
I use Codeguide from Omnicore. [ http://www.omnicore.com/htmls/codeguide.html ] If you like Idea you will like this too. And it's cheaper. Bernhard Broo -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Clay Mitchell Gesendet: Samstag,

Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread The Boss
Hi Joe, I usually build tools to build tools so I mostly can't afford to accept other people's design philosophies. Thus the tools of choice for me are the simplest because they have the least conceptual overhead. Put it like this, I am NOT interested in making the most out of something like

RE: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?

2002-03-23 Thread Noah Nordrum
You can't afford $400?!? where the hell are all you cheap bastards working that you can't scrape up $400? I think you all need to focus a little harder on working and spending less time looking at porn; then maybe you could get a job that would afford you a salary that gives you disposable