Hi Joe, I usually build tools to build tools so I mostly can't "afford" to accept other people's design philosophies. Thus the tools of choice for me are the simplest because they have the least conceptual overhead. Put it like this, I am NOT interested in making the most out of something like Idea, I AM interested in doing three or four or tens times BETTER than Idea in creating J2EE apps. Yes, I can use a tool like 'vi' to build the better stuff, but I can't use Idea to do better than Idea if you see what I mean. Like a dinosaur Idea has made its evolutionary commitment, as have the other dinosaurs of similar ilke. It sounds a lot better than JBuilder though for what it does ... it simply doesn't sound better than my tools ... ;)
regards goffredo > Um, dude... you're using a commercial product. Why? Typically, because the > value you get out of licensing it gives you a good return on your > investment. I *could* use Tomcat instead of Orion... but Tomcat sucks. > It's free, but it sucks. If it didn't suck, the return on the investment > of time would be worthwhile. I use Orion. (Do the math.) > > Editors work the same way. I *could* use vi, or emacs (and I used to use > vi and emacs), but I found that IDEA boosted my productivity (the > "return") so much that I was able to justify the cost (the "investment") > easily and well. And that's after wasting my time with JBuilder, Forte, > Kawa, JEdit, Netbeans (which is better than Forte, despite Forte being > based on Netbeans, joe, vi, emacs, and Eclipse (and I'm sure I'm leaving > some out in this list). > > If you're going to wave the "It's not free" flag, run back to Tomcat and > Apache where you belong. > >> JBuilder was a waste of time after using it >> for years, and waking up to the fact that >> I only used it to package classes anyway. I >> bet people who are recommending idea are using >> other people's money to buy idea licenses? >> >> What about Simplicity? >> >> regards ... >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: "Eric Hodges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: RE: Java IDE? >>> Date: 22/03/2002 14:33:50 >>> To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> Idea for coding, Jbuilder for GUI layout. >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Clay Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:55 PM >>>> To: Orion-Interest >>>> Subject: Java IDE? >>>> >>>> >>>> Just a question, any suggestions as to what a good IDE is? >>>> I've tried JBuilder, IDEA (I like IDEA) and a few others... >>>> any recommendations? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Clay >>>> >>>> >>>> >> This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au >> >> >>
