RE: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-09 Thread Frank Eggink
reside in the middle layer, where you also have the benefits of a strong OO machine independent language. - Brian Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE Date: Sat

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-08 Thread Frank Eggink
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Jueves, 06 de Septiembre de 2001 12:51 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Stored procedures and J2EE I'm interested as to how you can say this... we just did a series of tests here to see what the effect of pulling out some fairly complex stored procedures into CMP

RE: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-08 Thread Troy Wong
independent language. - Brian Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: Frank Eggink [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE Date: Sat Sep 08 08:07:53 GMT 2001 Is it correct to state that from a performance and design perspective

Re: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-07 Thread Daniel López
Hi, I think I might add our 2c, even though they are completely against the trend ;). In fact, we don't use EJBs at all, unsing instead Stored Procedures to perform the business logic. When we started, EJB was an, IMHO, inmature technology that forced people to write lots of intermediate classes

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread The elephantwalker
A bean is just a representation of data in a datastore with a collection of finder and business methods. You can use cmp's to access data which is already in a datastore. Astateless session beancan be used to fire off your create procedures, and this slsb can be in your cmp create (or

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread Cristian Donciulescu
don't use the storedprocedures that much?Christian From: "The elephantwalker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 02:23:29 -0700 A bean is j

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread The elephantwalker
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cristian DonciulescuSent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:38 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE Thanks for your help. The reasonI want to use stored procedures

Re: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread Rian Schmidt
ally think that any performance hit that we've seen is a result of poor design? I'm really interested in your reasoning. Rian - Original Message - From: The elephantwalker To: Orion-Interest Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:23 AM Subject: RE: Stored procedures a

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread The elephantwalker
]]On Behalf Of Rian SchmidtSent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 9:51 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Re: Stored procedures and J2EE I'm interested as to how you cansay this... we just did a series of tests here to see what the effect of pulling out some fairly complex stored procedures

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread Juan Lorandi (Chile)
-From: Rian Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Jueves, 06 de Septiembre de 2001 12:51To: Orion-InterestSubject: Re: Stored procedures and J2EE I'm interested as to how you cansay this... we just did a series of tests here to see what the effect of pulling out some fairly complex

Auto-reply: Re: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread ATTILA.BODIS
ubject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE As for distributing your business logic between the datastore and middle tier...aren't you making your life more complex than it needs to be? There is absolutely no hit on performance if you pull out all of your business logic into a slsb or cmp

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread Bill G
Using EJB means that you can use CMP, BMP or an Object/Relation Mapping tool. I have found CMP to be very limited. I have found BMP with stored procedures way moreflexible when working with relational database and I have found Object/Relation mapping even better. An O/R mapping tool like

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread The elephantwalker
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill G Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:40 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE Using EJB means that you can use CMP, BMP or an Object/Relation Mapping tool. I have found CMP to be very limited. I have found BMP

RE: Auto-reply: Re: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread Metla, Suri
-Original Message- From: ATTILA.BODIS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:27 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Auto-reply: Re: Stored procedures and J2EE I will be on vacation with no access to email until September 10, 2001. For issues

RE: Stored procedures and J2EE

2001-09-06 Thread Bill G
:00 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Stored procedures and J2EE Well I do like R.E.M., and that religion song, but interestingly enough, I don't wear glasses ;). But seriously, I have also tried this both way's. And cmp dev can be done in 1/4 the time...see below for performance comparisons