Re: Autopoiesis

1999-01-21 Thread Birgitt Bolton
Okay Joe, but can you elaborate. The way I see it no matter how much an acorn wants to seize other possibilities, like maybe become a kitten, the inevitable oak tends to happen, or death maybe, but never a kitten. I have a struggle with "out of nothing comes something". Seems to me, there is a des

Re: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread Birgitt Bolton
Don, Here are how my thoughts address the question of metaphor at the time of prioritization. I attend a yoga class. After all the moving and stretching and such, and then getting myself untangled again (not gracefully I might add), we have the chance to lie and move into a deep meditation. I hav

Re: Re[2]: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread Birgitt Bolton
Far be it for me to disagree with Machiavelli. And from this beginning, you'll know that I am just about to launch into that anyhow. One of life's lessons that I learned when I was 21 and fresh out of university (a very long time ago) and working as a social worker in child welfare was the one abo

Re: Autopoiesis

1999-01-21 Thread FamilyFirm
Earlier references to self-orgaizing systems drew me to something I read a while ago that is relevant to OS. It is from "A Simpler Way" by Margaret Wheatly (page 46-47) "Life wants to happen. It calls itself into existence. Out of all information and all possibilities, an entity comes into form.

Re: Re[2]: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread Susan Travers
Don, I've offered up the metaphor piece as closure to an "obstacles to achieving the vision" process with the ICA method. Participants enjoy it immensely, it evokes lots of fun and laughter ... seems to function as a right-brain shift and sometimes becomes a motif with lasting value. The best me

Re: Recognition Opportunity/Global Open Space

1999-01-21 Thread Uwe Weissflog
Jay, here is my first cut; Systems Thinking in Action to be held November 3-5 in Atlanta, Georgia. Proposal Application 1999 Systems Thinking in Action Conference Learning Communities: Meeting the Challenges of a Global Enterprise Deadline, February 3, 1999 Pegasus Communications, Inc., Attn:

Re: Re[2]: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 1/21/99 9:05:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, dferr...@placer.ca.gov writes: << One of the things that caught my attention most in the whole Open Space meme is that self-organizing systems don't need a facilitator to organize them. >> But they often need someone to assume the respo

Re[3]: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread Don Ferretti
The other thing is that I've been treating this list sort of like a cyber open space so if I'm off track there I guess I'll find out. I wish there were an interactive real time cyber open space. Reaching 50 kicked me into another learning mode. Don Ferretti _

Re: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread owen
>But has anyone ever used a metaphor as a pathway to prioritizing. What images >did you use besides a house or building of some kind? > >Thanks. > >Don Ferretti > >__ Reply Separator What you are suggesting is interesting, but personally, I have never had any problem get

Re[2]: Process question

1999-01-21 Thread Don Ferretti
Is the trip necessary? Just to clarify where I'm coming from on this. For me, and my style, the use of a metaphor is part of a graduated response to a group's request for help in prioritizing (usually at the end of the meeting). The first cut may be that that people just automatically start workin