In a message dated 1/9/01 12:31:41 PM, ns...@aol.com writes:
<< Their was conflict (yes, hard to believe, even in the church) over turf of
the different committees. >>
I never noticed that churches were immune to conflict! At least, not the
ones I have been a part of.
Joelle Everett
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At 05:56 PM 1/9/01 -0700, you wrote:
Chris Weaver wrote:
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> Does anyone have experience using OST in a church in similar circumstances
> (new leadership, financial pressures)? I would like to have some
> stories/testimonials to share with the church vestry. There's not much in
> the "church/r
Let me weigh in with my two cents worth: I think the list is just fine as it
is. I am prepared to make sure that my postings are either sharing
information about an open space or giving out information that others might
find useful. I like hearing about the different trainings and events that are
a
What organizations you will be working for, Bob?
Are the workshops scheduled already?
We are only one night by train from Omsk - in Novosibirsk, so if you could
please say about your trainings and what kind are they?
Best wishes
Elena Marchuk
Novosibirsk
- Original Message -
From: Bob
Chris, I will be facilitating an Open Space in a Scottsdale, Arizona
Episcopal church on Jan 20. The Open Space follows a system-wide
Appreciative Inquiry. It is being sponsored by the Vestry and Rector as
their main input and planning event scheduled immediately after their
Annual Meeting - the e
Chris: I have lots of experience in using Open Space in parishes,
dioceses, synods, presbyteries, church social justice groups and beyond. A
lot of it has had to do with transformation. I have trained a number of
Anglicans Program Directors in Canada who are using Open Space at times.
ELCA in t
Chris:
I forgot to mention one thing regarding my story of 1st United Methodist
Church and OST, most of my work for this event came into play in keeping
nervous folks (mainly the clergy of the church) from giving direction or
trying to influence the event. Like most of us at the beginning, we don
Chris:
I have had some experience in this regard. First, I am an ordained clergy
person in the United Church of Christ, and I know that OST is a powerful tool
for churches. Second, most recently I opened space for !st United Methodist
Church in Peoria, Illinois, and again, these folks did it nat
I agree wholeheartedly with Winston. I am often frustrated at the amount
of email on the list serve which all too often could easily have been
directed to the individual. Some effort is all that is needed by the list
serve members. When you have an email directed to an individual, make it a
new
Birgitt, and everyone--
I like the idea of clarifying the purpose and a few simple guidelines, and it
would be useful to share those with newcomers. I think we are, collectively,
quick learners, but it wouldn't hurt to make these ideas explicit once in a
while.
Joelle
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In a message dated 1/9/01 7:50:00 AM, ch...@springbranch.net writes:
<< My sense is that, though it is a strong and indeed a vibrant
church, a number of their projects no longer match what has heart and
meaning for the church members. >>
Chris--
My story predates my experience with Open Space, b
Dear Gray, and OSLIST,
I am grateful to you. The work you describe is exactly of the sort that I
have imagined to be possible, and I am glad to have your stories to share
with others, including some priest friends.
In following with your advice, I will be sure that any process I propose
moves fo
Winston, and others--
I'm one person who sometimes unintentionally sends a reply to the OSList
which I intended for one person. Can someone please clarify for me the
mechanics of the process?
On some other lists that I participate in, clicking the "Reply" button sends
an answer to the sender of
Dear colleagues on the list,
I sometimes feel like we on the os-list are like shoemaker's children. In
this case, consultants/facilitators who work with other organizations to
develop best practices using OST but in my experience we don't apply what we
know to ourselves.
It might be a useful exerc
> I would invite people to observe what's going on here, and savour the dance
> of the meta conversation.>
Chris, thank you for bringing me back to center regarding
the ebb and flow of a virtual community process. With your
message I felt as if I was releasing definitions and trying
to think fo
Hi Chris,
following my signature is an article I wrote a few years ago for a United
Church of Canada Leadership magazine. Hope it helps.
Blessings,
Birgitt
SEEING THE GOOD, TRUE, AND BEAUTIFUL IN EACH OTHER: process and decision
making within Church -Birgitt Williams, Spring 1998
As an independen
Dear OSLIST,
I am in dialogue with an Episcopal church (Anglican, usa) that is about to
get a new rector (priest). The church also has a large bugetary shortfall
to deal with. My sense is that, though it is a strong and indeed a vibrant
church, a number of their projects no longer match what has
Hi, Chris -
> I am in dialogue with an Episcopal church (Anglican, usa) that is about to
> get a new rector (priest). The church also has a large bugetary shortfall
> to deal with. My sense is that, though it is a strong and indeed a vibrant
> church, a number of their projects no longer match w
I do not know the technical workings of list design, but
would it be helpful to put a brief note at the bottom of
each page, as we do the OSLIST subscription information?
I think of this because there will always be new people and
because many people do not read the 'welcome to the list
here are t
Is anybody here as fascinated as I am with this recent thread?
I find it wonderful to follow the dance of engagement in virtual
communities like OSLIST or Caucus or alot of the other online forums I'm
part of.
And, as I've been using Usenet and listservs for almost ten years now, I
have seen this
I agree whole-heartedly with all your comments, Winston, however I believe
we have had this discussion before and I was in the minority re being a bit
more strategic in terms of where we send our messages, i.e. to individuals
versus the list. I do appreciate getting info re training and meetings as
as a _former_ host of trainings, though perhaps future host as well, AND
a proponent of open space as a practice in invitation, i think that it
is most appropriate to share training invitations on the list (and for
listmembers to forward them on). as useful as lots of other stuff that
gets passed
Dear OS List,
As the recent culprit in the at least one of the direct messages to another
person on the list I what to concur that this is not the best media for that
kind of communication. My posting in that regard was an accident. I thought
I was sending a message directly to the person and sen
Bob and everyone else to whom it may concern,
Outside of the US many people pay to their internet provider the *time*
they are connected.
An attachment of more than 300kB divided by transfer rate multiplied by
charge multiplied by number of people affected - that sums up to quite a
substancial am
I hope this list stays as Winston articulated, "a place to share experience
and stories, ask questions, improve one's knowledge of and celebrate OST (in
other words
a community of interest and practice)" and not a parking lot for the Ego. Over
the years, I have used a lot of what I've see here
Dear OSLIST:
Building on Christopher Schmees' post this morning, I wonder if we could not
try to respond more frequently "off-list" (not hard to do) when messages
such as responses to requests for assistance etc. are intended for one
person?
Also, I sense that there is a shift happening in the us
In a message dated 1/8/01 3:24:52 PM, familyf...@aol.com writes:
<< www.psccoregon.org >>
Thanks, Joe, that is useful. Have a great meeting tomorrow!
Joelle
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