Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Chris-- One of the things that I learned long ago about facilitation is that if there is something in the room with emotional energy around it, it needs to be spoken out loud, or else things soon get very weird. Open Space provides opportunity for participants to do just that, but sometimes the f

Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 2/6/01 11:38:01 AM, coop...@interlynx.net writes: << Dave Koehler wrote: > do you (or anyone) notice a difference in the energy level of the group > when all discussions are in one big room? That seems to be my experience. > I have never heard anyone specifically talk > a

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Chris-- No sainthood implied or desired for Wilber. But speaking as a person who came closer to flunking philosophy than any other college course, I appreciate his ability to make some sense out of philosophical ideas without simplifying down to meaninglessness. Joelle * * =

Meeting in one room (was: Re: playback ost story (long))

2001-02-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
I have noticed a marked difference between groups that meet in the same room and those that spread out around a facility. i like to have groups meet in the same room ( the higher the ceiling the better) as it facilitates a lot more sustained energy and helps bumblebees to find their way around. A

Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread Michelle Cooper
I agree Laurel. It seems to depend on the group and the size and the acoustics in a room. IN most of the cases that I have facilitated, the groups have found the noise levels distracting and found other venues. We had two groups in a large but low ceilinged room at the open space I facilitated for

Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread Chris Weaver
To Dave Rupley, Until I read your words I did not consider that "what I was going through" had been picked up on by the group prior to my verbalizing it. I believe that you are right, and this new perspective is deeply important in filling in my understanding of what happened. I am content with

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Barry Owen
I've been dragging my copy of "Sex, Ecology and Spirituality" around with me for the past 4 years . . . I find it especially useful when I get the feeling my mind is beginning to stagnate and have the need for a mental stimulous injection - WOW! Another reason I enjoy Ken Wilber's writing so much

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Mark R. Jones
ADDENDUM: Wilber has been refining his thinking with fervor for the last couple of years: 1998: "The Marriage of Sense and Soul" "The Essential Ken Wilber - An Introductory Reader" 1999: "One Taste -- The Journals of Ken Wilber" 2000: "Integral Psychology -- Consciousness, Sp

Re: Ken Wilber...

2001-02-06 Thread Winston Kinch
Anyone who wants to "get to know" Ken Wilber a little better and/or seeks proof that he is human; read "Grace and Grit" and "One Taste". There is a real person behind that truly monumental mind... Winston * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.ed

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Mark R. Jones
Hi. The critique of Wilber's work is in a book called: "Ken Wilber in Dialogue -- Conversations with Leading Transpersonal Thinkers" by Rothberg and Kelly; 1998; Quest Books; ISBN: 0-8356-0766-6 Wilber's latest works take into positive consideration the criticisms and observations that w

SV: My Favorite Part

2001-02-06 Thread Ingrid Olausson
My favorite is when the skeptic comes to me after the first sessions and says something like: "This is excellent. I didn't think this would work but it is good!" Ingrid - Original Message - From: Jeff Aitken To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 6:21 PM Subject: My Favorite Part > Frie

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread (David Koehler)
Harrison: I just finished Wilbur's "The Theory of Everything," and I agree, it's good stuff. (I also agree that it's like drinking from a fire hose.) The reason I read it was to relate it to your books, especially "The Power of Spirit." It did help in completing the picture. Thanks, Dave Koehle

Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread (David Koehler)
In a message dated 2/5/01 3:10:17 AM Central Standard Time, ch...@springbranch.net writes: > My internal jury's still out on the wording of this principle. Here is what > I found myself saying this morning: "The next principle is, Whatever > happens is the only thing that could have. Chris: Y

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
I'm laughing away at our new minted patron saint! Anyone know of any well done critiques of Wilber's work? I'm thinking here about people who take him apart not out of malilce (perhaps he dismissed them first!) but on solid ground, on the basis of the ideas as they are... Chris -- CHRIS CORRIGA

My Favorite Part

2001-02-06 Thread Don Ferretti
My favorite parts of Open Space are... Getting in touch with the "Me" who believes in and prepares for opening space. Going into the room when no one is there and just sitting there in the middle. Seeing everyone in the large circle before it starts. The feeling that emerges once people have looke

talking circles - "Aho"

2001-02-06 Thread Chris Weaver
In my posting on talking circles, I described the "Aho" response and gesture which I learned from my Elder Ken Jackson. In case anyone chooses to teach this, please make it clear: "Aho" does not mean "I agree with you." It is not in the realm of reaction or opinion. The response "Aho" means, I

Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread David C. Rupley, Jr., MD(H)
playback ost story (long)Chris, I have waited to reply for a relaxed opportunity. My perspective comes from a more theraputic model. You desribe your response well and I trust quite accurately. To lock yourself in the bathroom and spend time outside, in contrast to coloring and being relaxed, w

Re: talking circles - "Aho"

2001-02-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
An important distinction of course, as the word for "yes" in Ojibway is "Ahenh." In Ojibway a sound like "aho" is also used to acknowledge what has been said, but confusing the two would lead to some delicate situations(!). Chris Chris Weaver wrote: > In my posting on talking circles, I describ

Re: playback ost story (long)

2001-02-06 Thread Doersam, Laurel
> Dave Koehler wrote: > do you (or anyone) notice a difference in the energy level of the group > when all discussions are in one big room? That seems to be my experience. > I have never heard anyone specifically talk > about it. > > I've noticed that the energy in the room can get quite

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Doersam, Laurel
I was so enthralled with A Brief History of Everything that I went out and filled my shelves full of Wilber. I've just finished The Marriage of Sense and Soul (1998, I think) in which he takes a stab at integrating science and religion/spirituality. The biggest "aha" for me happened when, in his d

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Mark R. Jones
Yes, Theory Of Everything" is a new book. Wilbur also begins to identify communities of people trying put Integral Theory into Integral Practice. . . . A natural playground for Open Spacers . . . Mark R. Jones Chief Information Officer -- SEA Information Services Executive Vice President --

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Harrison-- I have Ken Wilbur's book, A Brief History of Everything. Is Theory of Everything another, more recent book? He does give you plenty to chew on. I took A Brief History with me when I was doing a series of treatments that included 2+ hours a day in a sauna. I'd start the day reading, t

Re: Ken Wilber, Spiral Dynamics, Open Space .....

2001-02-06 Thread Chris Corrigan
Joelle Lyons Everett wrote: > > Ken Wilbur has an awesome ability to understand, organize and develop ideas, > and plenty of heart and soul. > ...and hubris! I have been flirting with A Brief History of Everything and have moved on to its predecessor, Sex, Ecology, Spirituality which is a tilt a