Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Artur-- Well, I agree with you. In thinking about this event, I remembered that I had encouraged the leadership team to share more information in their invitation to the OS. And on the evening before, I asked the director if she wanted to review the situation in the opening. But I did not ask t

Help! Client's Three Week Worries

2003-02-19 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Michael-- I like it! I will probably use it :-Doug. * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-19 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Chris-- It's never been bad news to hear from you! And great to have some thoughtful people taking on big issues. Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, v

First Day of Three Wednesdays

2003-02-19 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Hi to all and especially all of you who have been helping me with this-- Today, February 19, 2003, we held the first 3-hour session of this 3-Wednesday meeting. Our aim is to Influence and Improve Senior Healthcare & Well-Being in our community. Approximately 37 people took part in our meeting. T

Re: Fwd: Re: [OSLIST] Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
Dear Michael: At 17:10 19-02-2003 +0100, you wrote: My word for givens is "Rahmenbedingungen" and I propose we all use this word to really impress our sponsors and clients. It translates something like "conditions that set the frame". Very impressive. Next time we meet face to face you have t

Re: Fwd: Re: [OSLIST] Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Dear Artur, if gravity is a "given" all you need to do is to have the space in outer space. My word for givens is "Rahmenbedingungen" and I propose we all use this word to really impress our sponsors and clients. It translates something like "conditions that set the frame". Everybody here knows, th

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Dear Artur, here is the story on the follow up meeting (my present practice). 1. The date for the follow up meeting, including beginning and ending time and the location are set by the planning group even before the invitation for the os is distributed. 2. The information under 1. is included promi

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Herman
welcome back, birgitt... yes you've been here lurking and sometimes posting all along, but you feel more here than what has been usual for some time, so am glad for that! the notion of givens has been very helpful and also limiting for me over the years. i like the notion of degrees of freedom, b

Re: opening space...empowerment and motivation

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Herman
corrigan said: eeds, I ask the two immortal questions introduced to me by Michael Herman: “What do you really want to do?” and “Fine, why don’t you take care of it?” time to re-read the user's guide, chris... i talk about this a lot, but it comes from my initial reading and notetaking in advance

Re: OST and decolonization

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Herman
running the gauntlet here, reading this whole last week at once... oh my, you all have been busy while i'm on the road! btw, complete proceedings posted WHILE we worked in open space, from montessori regional conference... http://www.globalchicago.net/ams if you're interested in how wiki can suppo

RE: FW: כנס מדעי של בסוד שיח

2003-02-19 Thread Averbuch
Dear Bernd and Brigitt and Doris, Thank you very much for offering you support and attention. in a week or so I hope to have an real invitation and I will forward it to you so you can send it to those you may find fit. This is quit a loaded time both for promoting dialogue in Israel and for promot

Re: Help! Client's Three Week Worries

2003-02-19 Thread Michael Herman
i often assure sponsors that '...by the time the participants arrive, the room will definitely look like there has been real preparation for the meeting.' "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." wrote: > might look "unprofessional" if > the people chose their own meeting space, and -- Michael Herman Micha

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
Hello Birgitt At 21:02 18-02-2003 -0500, Birgitt Williams wrote: Arthur, Sorry to begin with this, but may I ask that you spell my name as "Artur". My ancestors have been romanized many centuries ago, and I wouldn't like be "anglicized" (or "americanized") now... I accept responsibility for

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
At 12:20 19-02-2003 +0100, Pannwitz, Michael M wrote: In my practice I charge a flat fee for facilitating an os-event. It includes the planning sessions, setting up the room etc., being the facilitator and conducting a followup meeting. If the client does not want the follow up, still the same f

Re: Fwd: Re: [OSLIST] Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
Dear Chris: - Mensagem Reenviada de Chris Corrigan So I think that givens are useful as long as they are well understood and true. And what empowerment is all about is including them and transcending them and evolving to a higher form of being. I know that you and other collegues do a

Re: opening space...empowerment and motivation

2003-02-19 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
What a challenge, ashley cooper, having to define ones style! I have offered my strongly held believe (I have has several of those, if not to say a multitude, shattered in my 35 years of professionally working with systems) about opening space on this list several times. Here goes again: the open s

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Dear Birgitt, decades before I ever heard of open space (now knowing it was always there) it was part of my basic OD-craftsmanship to deal with the givens in the sense that I encouraged the client to pay attention to them which often meant putting them on the table for the first time for everyone t

What's the best link/website?

2003-02-19 Thread Lisa Heft
Hello from rainy Berkeley, California, USA. I am looking for a website or practice community to link to for each of the approaches to whole systems change listed in Peggy Holman and Tom Devane's book The Change Handbook: Group Methods for Shaping the Future copyright C1999 by Peggy Holman and Tom

Re: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

2003-02-19 Thread Artur Ferreira da Silva
At 10:18 19-02-2003 +, Chris Corrigan wrote: I can t resist throwing out this bone: http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i23/23b00701.htm Thank you, Chris. Very interesting. In the 40's it was Bertalanffy's "General Systems Theory"; later French

Re: Empowerment and other matters (Short!!)Update on the 2.5 day Open Space with the Katzie First Nation

2003-02-19 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
For Chris Corrigan and other friends: I have two - or so - insights to add, perhaps. 1. Warren Bennis once talked to me about empowerment as "a licence to kill" - which I found shattering a couple of years ago. But I don't find it so now, because I have seen that very impact sometimes, especially

Re: Givens (was: Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such)

2003-02-19 Thread Birgitt Williams
Hello Artur, and I apologize for the mistake in how I spelled your name. For me, the word "givens" is not of importance so much as the conceptual constructs that are in the being of the facilitator and in what he/she communicates to the organization. Blessings, Birgitt -Original Message-