Re: So what should be done with the archieves now?

2004-04-09 Thread averbuch
Yes, and million thanks. Bless you for your role and for the way you choose to do it With Much appreciation Tova 972-3-5523476 averb...@post.tau.ac.il -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Herman Sent: Thursday

Re: Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-09 Thread Colin Morley
Brilliant, I love it. There was me thinking our wall could be done with the agreement of the owner - perhaps by buying or asking for the donation of some poster advertising space. A flash mob could do Open Space as a form of art work - perhaps even in an art gallery... What could the objective be

Re: OS & 9/11 Hearings

2004-04-09 Thread Jim Metcalf
Thanks for raising great questions that touches on a topic I've been thinking about for some time: It seems to me that one of the most important jobs of a President today should be to engage the American people, maybe even the world's people, on important topics of conversation. Corporate ethics, e

Re: choice, style, independance and what is unique

2004-04-09 Thread Ashley Cooper
opening space for art that is life. thanks for this, daniel. www.ashleycoop.blogspot.com > [Original Message] > From: daniel lebel > To: > Date: 4/10/2004 4:26:01 PM > Subject: choice, style, independance and what is unique > > re the archives > it is nice to know they are there > like you a

Re: Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-09 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 4/9/04 2:20:45 PM, morle...@btopenworld.com writes: > What could the objective be here? - To show passion and > responsibility...concern without blame?  To demonstrate a different way of > public discussion? > > Colin-- How about an objective of experimenting with ways to o

Re: Educational Research Question

2004-04-09 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 4/9/04 2:50:23 AM, k...@napuk.demon.co.uk writes: > It appears this is the first time anyone in Scotland > asked customers (pupils) what they want to learn, how best they learn > and why they learn!!  The primary children have been amazing > contributors - creative, articulate

OS & 9/11 Hearings

2004-04-09 Thread Peter or Esther
If the lessons being learned in the 9/11 hearings are that information, concerns, urgencies are not getting around...then: Isn't there some way that the incoming and outgoing administrations could have a big Open Space event to transfer information, concerns, urgencies each time? AND, isn't ther

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-09 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
Dear Chris and all Spot on, Chris. For my money. I confess to never having used the word "givens" in any context with a client. Ever. But I know the concept is important for me to understand and be aware of and take into consideration when I am working through the formulation of the THEME with th

OSonOS in OZ/NZ

2004-04-09 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
Dear All For the record and for sharing, we opened space here in Melbourne for perhaps the Sixth OSonOS in this part of the world, March 17-19. It seemed proper to open on St Patrick's Day as Brendan McKeague - an Irish expat - was in full and flourishing presence, as always. Some 25 participants

Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example

2004-04-09 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
Dear Chris's et al, One of the things I have observed that the words Hierarchy" and "Bureaucracy" hove gotten loaded with a lot of negativity and bad baggage, one way or another. That's perhaps rather unfortunate, even though it is true and deserved, as I see it. Because both concepts have a great

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-09 Thread Chris Weaver
larry, thanks for this description. over time, there is a lot of subtlety in how an organization honors, relies on, tethers to certain givens, while transcending others. it also seems to me that the use of language about givens does something deeper than defining specific parameters for an OST m

Re: Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-09 Thread Harrison Owen
Doug -- where were you in the '60s baby? (Don't answer if it is going to incriminate you.) What you described happened over and over again. Sometimes it got a little dicey depending on the subject matter and audience... but mostly it was fun and educational. Harrison Harrison Owen 7808 River Fall

Opening Space for a Closing World

2004-04-09 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Colin-- Your post has been on my mind and in more than one entry in my journal since I read it. It has sparked my imagination. Thank you. Your idea about a big marketplace wall in a public place intrigues me. Could you extend it a little? What might it look like? How could we pull it off? For in

Educational Research Question

2004-04-09 Thread kerry napuk
Dear Sue We have facilitated three OS events with parents and teachers and four with pupils (ages 10 to 16) and teachers for the Scottish Executive Education Department, Scotland's devolved central government. These events were under the new Assessment is for Learning programme that is introduci

Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example

2004-04-09 Thread Harrison Owen
Michael -- it seems to me that the Emry's have it mostly right. The real issue for me is not only the separation of passion and responsibility, but also the assignment of responsibility in an arbitrary fashion. The way things are done in the "standard" bureaucratic hierarchy; there is little if any

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-09 Thread Larry Peterson
Michael: You said " i certainly here them as givens and work to push them around in such a way that there is some space within for the opening and surprise and movement that wants to happen. but i don't name or invite them as "givens" anymore. "To me to ask up front what the sponsor "takes as gi

Re: Hierarchies, decision making and a real-life example

2004-04-09 Thread Michael Herman
ah, brian, i'll add a few of your fellow aussies into this mix... i have always found fred and merrelyn emery's definition of "bureaucratic hierarchy" most helpful. bh, they say is characterized by "responsibility for the work (the taking care of things) resting or being vested one or more level

Re: is it still open?

2004-04-09 Thread Michael Herman
having just gotten off a 2+ hour call with a sponsor who has been actively working for the last few weeks with a number of very diverse and charged groups/leaders to write an invitation to massive social mindshift, i really appreciate what you say, brian, about "givens disallowing the surprise an