Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Michaël-SYSt
Dear all, Harrison wrote: "Lots of people "could have come" but only a certain number really cared (enough) to come." Is it only about caring? For some it also the opportunity. So it seems to me that Open Space really starts before the event. And that all who care are given the real opportunity

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2005-04-12 Thread john engle
or maybe those who couldn't come were: 1) modern day slaves - there's tens of millions of them around the world 2) too hungry and weak to be aware of the meeting and to get there - there's hundreds of millions or more in this category 3) too humiliated because they were part of the wrong social c

Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Harrison Owen
Michaël Molenaar wrote: Is it only about caring? For some it also the opportunity. Not to put too fine a point on it -- but at some level I think we make our own opportunities. I have certainly seen people surmount incredible obstacles to be where they cared to be. And at the end of the day, that

Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Jack Ricchiuto
Open Space really starts before the event Thanks Michael for that reminder. I've done OS in many organizations where open space was a way of being introduced into the culture before events and sustained beyond them. It's fascinating to see how differently people interact in OS events withi

Positive Deviance

2005-04-12 Thread Masud Sheikh
Dear Lisa and other friends, I am posting some information on Dr. Akhtar Hameed Khan and Muhammad Yunus. Lisa, please feel free to write to me off list, in case you wish to continue this conversation. It may not be of general interest to the list. Dr. Akhtar Hameed Khan joined the Indian Civi

Re: question on open space origins

2005-04-12 Thread chris macrae
Harrison - Thanks it's interesting to know that the first open space beyond the annual event was a commercial innovation area I have digested pre-work is generally a waste of space. Presumably the invitation is another topic. I have had the impression that sometimes you have done quite a lot of wo

Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Harrison Owen
Masud Wrote: Do we need to use "right" or "appropriate" for people? If we say "whatever happened is the only thing that could have happened" (if I remember the words correctly) why can we not also say; "Whoever came are the only people who could have come" I suppose we could -

Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Congratulations, Jorie and Gail! Vietnam has now been activated in the World Map. When you open the map http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/ click on the search button in the upper right hand corner of the map enter Vietnam in the vacant box in the search field and hit search there your two names appe

Re: OS and prioritizing of topics

2005-04-12 Thread Harrison Owen
Ah Priorities! Balloting! The discussion continues. I think the word for it is convergence, and from where I sit, convergence is a simple, natural, human act. After talking about a whole mess of things, it turns out that some are more important to the assembled group than some others. Of course, al

Re: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Carol Daniel Kasbari
As much as it sounds far away, the Chinese problem of translating the "right" people is the same that I faced when I came to translate it to Arabic. And you will be surprised to know that everywhere I used OS in Arabic, I used the word "appropriate" to describe "the right people" because it so

Re: question on open space origins

2005-04-12 Thread Jeff Aitken
I have a battered old pocket calendar from 1989, which clearly shows that Harrison conducted an Open Space event in the basement of my old graduate school on a February weekend in 1989. Some of our faculty and students participated in the OT conference in San Diego the year before, and invited

Re: question on open space origins

2005-04-12 Thread Harrison Owen
I guess I misunderstood you Chris. The invitation is most important, and broadly getting the word out is equally critical. But at the end of the day The Issue is the motivating factor. When you have a real hot one (as determined by potential participants, and not necessarily by yourself) folks will

Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Masud Sheikh
Do we need to use "right" or "appropriate" for people? If we say "whatever happened is the only thing that could have happened" (if I remember the words correctly) why can we not also say; "Whoever came are the only people who could have come" Masud On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:45 -0700, Elwin and J

OS and prioritizing of topics

2005-04-12 Thread Staiger, Simone (CIAT)
Dear all, In the CGIAR (Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research, 15 centers worldwide funded mainly by the 58 countries, private foundations, and international organizations) we are making our first exciting experiences with OS. We used it in the framework of a Knowledge Shari

question on open space origins

2005-04-12 Thread chris macrae
Apologies if we have asked Harrison this question before I wanted to write up the extent to which the networking origins of open space, are different from the focused innovation or conflict resolution ones Going back to the 2 Martini story, I understand the first origin of open space to have been

Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Elwin and Joan
--- Harrison Owen wrote: > Idiomatic language is devilishly hard to translate, > and I suspect idiomatic (colloquial) English is the worst offender. I > opted for “right” = “appropriate.” Sounded good to me. What do you > think? Harrison, I think you did the "right" thing! Since 90% of my OST i

Re: boston conference

2005-04-12 Thread Lisa Kimball
Thank you, Masud, for the references to the work of Mohammad Younus and Akhtar Hameed Khan. Are there some articles or other sources that would give more information about their work? Too often I think we have the idea that we need to send ideas from the west (north) to help others and we forget

Re: boston conference

2005-04-12 Thread Masud Sheikh
Dear Lisa, This is wonderful. I was particularly struck by the comment: "It use was pioneered in developing countries and has led to sustainable improvements in seemingly intractable organizational and social issues." Two examples immediately came to mind: Mohammad Younus in Bangladesh on micro-cr

FW: 1st OS in Vietnam

2005-04-12 Thread Harrison Owen
I just received this delightful note from Jorie Wu in Taiwan. As you will see Vietnam is now added to the OS space. Jorie is publishing the Chinese version of “The User’s Guide,” and her questions about the meaning of “right” (as in, “Whoever comes is the right people.”) tickled my onion (made me s

Re: question on open space origins

2005-04-12 Thread Harrison Owen
The first time I used Open Space, other than with the International Symposium on Organization Transformation was with Dupont. It involved some 175 polymer chemists on the re-design of a major product line. That was in the summer of 1989. As for pre-work with Open Space, I have never found anythin