Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread lucia pavia Ticzon
yes! and simple does not mean easy. ~lpt On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 3:50 PM, paul levy wrote: Saying it is only a manner of speaking is only a manner of speaking. > > If your time organism is big enough it includes your now. > > There's more to this than meets the "I"! > > I'm sure there is more el

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread lucia pavia Ticzon
greetings back, michael ~ sending warmth and affirmation from the tropics. ~ lpt On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote: When I have a contract to facilitate an os-event I remind myself that space > is always open - sometimes it might appear almost closed - , regardless of > wh

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread paul levy
Saying it is only a manner of speaking is only a manner of speaking. If your time organism is big enough it includes your now. There's more to this than meets the "I"! I'm sure there is more eloquence than just "big". I think that perhaps "big" brought us to the brink of world economic collapse.

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
When I have a contract to facilitate an os-event I remind myself that space is always open - sometimes it might appear almost closed - , regardless of what I do. And then I remind myself that in my experience, using Open Space Technology has always worked in expanding time and space for the work

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread Harrison Owen
It is only a manner of speaking. If your NOW is big enough it includes what we (used to) call Past and Future. So how is that for esoterica? ho Harrison Owen 7808 River Falls Dr. Potomac, MD 20854 USA 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer) Camden, Maine 04843 Phone 301-365-2093 (summer)

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread lucia pavia Ticzon
for sure, there are such worldviews. not only circular ... infolding and unfolding, unfurling and unraveling, undulating and spiraling ... making itself over and over again. not just time ... bliss and suffering, as well as living and dying ... thanksgiving be [?] greetings from the philippines.

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread paul levy
Harrison Yes, and more... The "now" becomes enormous because it forms part of the time organism - a living organism because past, present and future all live vibrantly within it. This is no mere theory. Now is where we are present, but before and beyond are where we are also alive. But no. The p

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread Harrison Owen
Paul - "And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not only for the future but for our whole "time organism"." I like it. If only because I wrote a book, "Expanding Our Now." The idea is simple, maybe simple minded. But it goes like this: The past is over, the future hasn't hap

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread paul levy
Perfectly described, Koos! And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not only for the future but for our whole "time organism". It is also why, if there must be "action planning" is need not only come at the end! Time is linear, circular and many other things as well. Warm

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread Koos de Heer
Paul, I once heard a story from someone who had been to Greece, interviewing people about the political and economic situation there. He reports that some people would say: “We can’t predict the future – after all, you have no idea of the things that are still hidden behind your back.” The me

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread paul levy
David There's a depth and warm texture to your model. I would offer this: You define vision this: "what does it look like when it is done" I believe that is only part of vision. Vision is what does the temporal picture look like: the picture of past, present AND future, all playing into each o

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread David
When I do open space with my business hat on in the consulting role, I almost always start with four imperatives that most companies start with, even if they havent articulated it, but soon lose sight of. I call it VMPM. Vision, Mission, Purpose, Method. Many companies have a mission statement, few

Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

2013-03-24 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Ditto for me too! Suzanne On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring < adri...@diazberrio.com> wrote: > Yes I agree with Nici I was going to say the same thing! > Adriana Diaz-Berrio, Montreal, Quebec > > > 2013/3/23 Nici Richter > >> What a wonderful conversation! >>