Re: [OSList] Announcing the Next OSLIST Poet Laureate

2015-12-09 Thread Alan Stewart via OSList
G'day Lucas and All Congrats on organising such a imaginative and challenging contest. All three entries were superb in my opinion. I am looking forward with delicious anticipation to participating in OSonOSinOZ Onlin e

[OSList] Open Space funeral (Greg Rivera, in memoriam)

2015-12-09 Thread Eleder_BuM via OSList
Good morning, my mind comes back to a conversation invited by Pernilla last Wosonos in Krakow, in which she asked us, more or less: "*what everyday situations do you know in which the OS spirit is present?". *These days I realized *funerals can also be open space.* Last Sunday some friends of

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList
Wait. Is Donald Trump invited? His ideas? Are those who have thus far repressed similar thoughts and feelings as expressed by Trump...are they also invited? Because: if he is not, if they are not, if those ideas are not, then: the space that is purportedly open is in

Re: [OSList] Open Space funeral (Greg Rivera, in memoriam)

2015-12-09 Thread Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring via OSList
Eleder: Thank you for sharing this. I had a similar experience when my step father passed away. We made a circle and I asked the friends and family members who wanted to say something related with José Luis Gonzalez it was very impressive and moving and all listened to the person who had like a

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList
Are we to invite only those who are inviting? /Only/ those who are lovely? If we invite the uninviting and love the unlovely, the rest is up to them. Is it not? Isn't that how opening space actually goes? Daniel PS See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performative_contradiction

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Hey Daniel, I don't think Mr. Trump has any problem finding his breakout in the open space of the contemporary world. I find the issue exactly to be that he wishes to close off the space to others. He's being a space invader. How do you handle a space invader? Maybe if we both gave him a big hug.

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Jan Höglund via OSList
Well, who does Donal Trump invite? Not Muslims obviously. I just read "Talking to the Enemy" by Scott Atran https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14848338-talking-to-the-enemy Yes, it's about opening space... I'll write a book review some day. /Jan To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Date:

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList
"Opening space for fascism" I can understand and experience as a non-starter. Does censoring speech increase of decrease liberty? If speech was not censored, would Trump have any traction at all? The latter question is difficult to answer, the former is not. For the record, I do not currently

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
For some weird reason i only saw the first line of your original post Daniel. Below that, I now see your good important points about the people attracted to Mr. Trump's rhetoric. I am very much like them - white straight Christian Americans getting screwed by global economic forces. And needing

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
I hear you Daniel. There are needs not being addressed, and here's a guy saying he will address them. I don't share the perspective that Mr. Trump's rhetoric has not been openly shared for years in the public square. Unless Fox News and several allied websites and radio talk shows are not

[OSList] Live for the next 7 hours: OSonOSinOZ

2015-12-09 Thread Lucas Cioffi via OSList
Hi Everyone, Since Harrison's birthday celebration last week worked much better in Zoom than with QiqoChat's video provider, Qiqo now uses Zoom as its video provider. Today is the first live run-through. Over the next 7 hours (until 4:30pm Melbourne time), if you'd like to drop into OSonOSinOZ

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Mezick via OSList
I wonder if I am not such a good communicator. Setting aside the topic of the uninviting and unlovely for a moment, let us return to the issue of suppression and repression of thoughts which want legitimate expression. "Closed space" suppresses. And represses. And OPPRESSES. In this case,

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Oh yes i remember we talked about voluntaryists! Reminds me of my intensive study of what Ted Roszak called "mystical anarchists" among whom he named Tolstoy and Buber and Gandhi, as well as the ecological anarchists like Murry Bookchin, and nonviolent society thinkers like AJ Muste. The impulse

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Jan Höglund via OSList
Open space seems to be a vulnerable thing. It can only be opened by invitation, but can be closed by force. Or? /Jan ___ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send

Re: [OSList] Open Space wherever, however, whenever, with whomever as often as you can

2015-12-09 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList
I would pay for a plane ticket to witness this hug. Christine On Dec 9, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote: Hey Daniel, I don't think Mr. Trump has any problem finding his breakout in the open space of the contemporary world. I find the