Hi, friends!
This is _not_ 1918. Among other things, we have OST. :-)
http://www.fluwikie.com/index.php?n=Consequences.LetterToNeighbours
Suggestions are welcome. Anyone can edit the wiki. I enclose the full
text in the message, below, in case someone wants to add things here.
Suggestions wi
to
> respond to an outbreak of the Avian Flu.
>
> Keep up your good works on behalf of humanity.
>
> Cheryl Honey, C.P.P.
> Community Weaver
> Family Support Network
> 206.240.2241
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lucas Gonzalez"
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ty is 4 hrs far from istanbul)
>
> I personally don't have time to deal with this issue although i don't
> deny
> its importance.
>
> Thanks,
> Funda
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lucas Gonzalez"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday
http://www.fluwikie.com/index.php?n=Main.TourLevelI ... short, clear.
http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu3.htm ... long, you'll all like it.
There may not be action within the oslist, but I do want to share with
you the above links so whoever is interested may stir things up
locally.
Pass it on,
Hi all!
I've just received one reply, off-list, about this "pandemic thing".
>I suspect that a lot of people (not just OS list members) are either
in >frank denial (disbelieving the inevitability of a flu pandemic, or
>thinking it won't happen anytime soon) or in that variant of not
>thinking the
Hi friends,
I've been away from the list - busy, with you on my mind.
I come back to share the following:
=
Flu Pandemic Awareness Week - October 3rd-9th, 2005
http://effectmeasure.blogspot.com/2005/10/pfaw-pandemic-flu-awareness-week.html
http://effectmeasure.blogspot.com/2005/10/importan
Hi all!
I've summed up a few things about the very real possibility of an
influenza pandemic in the following message:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalvillages/message/506
A short summary: if a flu pandemic emerges it could kill "millions" in
weeks or a few months. It would disrupt all socie
I believe that on the internet, The Law of Two Feet may become The Law
of Two (or Ten, if you've so been trained) FINGERS - as each person can
choose to reply to messages they find disturbing, or not. Ok, it may
ocasionally be the law of ONE finger: the one you use to press
"delete". Sometimes yo
> I'll be sending my software/OS system info to you in the next three
> days.
Thinking a bit further, I don't even think that's needed - not if we're
going to use Instant Messanger (IM). You can just create or use yahoo,
in two "simple" steps:
- Those who don't have a yahoo email account can cre
Canary Islands is GMT.
My weekends start on Friday night which is today or today+7, possibly
22:00 GMT - but do leave a message in any case. For those on IM: lgs0a
at yahoo, or lugonz at jabber.
Re technology - those who want help please write to me offlist with
your operating system (e.g. Windo
at we have a choice.
>
> Is it really a matter of choice or passion or expectation?or
> simply,
> we are in touch and that's it, whether we like it or not.
>
> This is an undeniable fact.
>
> Funda
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lucas
> approaches so far then...
You could give them the 2 page summary about OST + some links and run
away (or take a nap).
Or, if you're into doing lots of work, somehow make it easy for them to
get in touch with each other.
Tricky thing about "get in touch" is - do I really want to get in touch
wit
Would the invitees become facilitators, issue writers, break-out room
conveners, or what?
You may want to help people cluster (statistical term for
self-organise, in a way) around topics - but when you have that, would
you want to help them phrase an issue? Would you suggest they each
write on a
Re Halifax Happy Hour
For group keyboard-conversations I think we have:
- specific software such as http://www.openspace-online.com
- instant messenging (IM) such as http://www.jabber.org or
http://gaim.sf.net
- IRC (internet relay chat) such as http://www.xchat.org or
http://www.ircap.net
If peo
Maybe someone who has the skills to work with "cellular automata"
software can program and run some simulations .. If it turns out to be
indistinguishable from the real thing - what would that mean?
http://www.wolframscience.com/ (a book with chapters on cellular
automata and then more)
The rea
All this writing about agression makes me want to look at it from newer
perspectives, if possible.
There's this framework for considering waste as a resource: "if there
are 5 kingdoms of life (bacteria, fungi, algae, plants, animals) then
one kingdom should never be food to itself, but only to the
Ralph and all,
You may want to see Tom Munnecke's "cascade of uplifting" writings.
http://munnecke.com/blog/
He also writes about "health" as a "space" rather than a "system" [same
page, position 33% of the page, January 10, 2005].
Which is intriguing, to say the least.
Lucas
--- Ralph Coplema
I sent this only to Raffi Aftandelian but was intended for the whole
OSLIST - sorry!
> I share below some information about http://www.meshforum.org May 1-4
> in Chicago.
>
> Lucas
>
> PS: You may like this (unrelated) picture:
> http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/__show_article/_a10-001526.htm
>
>
--- Harrison Owen wrote:
> Desperation can help -- but it is by no means a cure-all. Sometimes
> folks get so desperate that they are like the rabbit in the gaze of
> a fox, or a deer in the headlights. They just freeze.
> That doesn't do much good.
> I think the real issue is not so much desperat
Hi Juan Luis and all!
> when the essential conditions are present
> all goes like the train on the rail.
> I also recognize that is a great challenge for me to make that
> client more open, step by step, word by word, conversation by
> conversation an perhaps, more sooner than later we will be
> i
--- "Pannwitz, Michael M" wrote:
> Dear Raffi,
> the "who" opens the space question has been discussed on this list
> frequently.
> Seems to me it has, on one level, to do with roles (one of the things
> that can be defined in certain ways).
> So
> -sponsor/organizer role
> -facilitator role
> -pa
Hi all
Open Space has been mentioned in a news-item at the terrific
worldchanging.org site ("another world is here" - "Models, Tools, and
Ideas for Building a Bright Green Future"):
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/002366.html
I already made a comment at that news-item suggesting people mig
--- Harrison Owen escribió:
> Major case in point. George W. Bush. He took us to war in Iraq
> because of
> the dire threat of WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda - none of which turned
> out to
> be true. But he was definitely in charge! And talk about
> rationalization -
> it now turns out that we got in
--- Tom Tuddenham escribió:
> And in regard to ant metaphor
> Lucas brought up, funnily enough we've called our little venture
> 'Siafu' after the ants of the serengeti plains. The notion is that
> many little things working together can make big things happen.
Elements will stick together if an
e software, writing code (if
> that's what you do) or offering $20 for someone to fix a bug or
> develop a feature you need (if writing code is not your thing).
>
> What is happening to open source is inspiring new ways of thinking
> about philanthropy, collaboration, marke
Hi Tom
> If I understand what you mean "bring the system in one room" to be
> bringing the stakeholders together in the place where the work is to
> be done, then yes.
I don't know much about software developement for such huge things as,
say, a hospital information system.
I know a little about
--- Chris Corrigan wrote:
> I think that's right Juan. Just for fun I've done a handful of Open
> Space Tech meetings without talking about the principles and the law.
> It works fine.
Could it be that speaking out the principles and the law helps the
facilitator the first times?
Have you found
Ok, I'm sure this has been dealt with before on this list, and I think
I know what an answer would look like ... but I'm not sure and I would
welcome some comments.
Experts http://www.who.int say we might have a flu pandemic with
"zillions sick, millions dead, all socioeconomies disrupted". They
--- Tom Tuddenham wrote:
> open space offers the
> possibility of accelerating the commercial development of open source
> projects and that a company focussing on open source solutions could
> manage its day-to-day operations and decision making using open space
> techniques.
> if there are other
--- Harrison Owen escribió:
> OK Larry :-) I have a 400 person OS with a major health care
> provider. I am
> forwarding them the material, and if they are agreeable, we are off
> to the
> races.
Wow - that would make it two on health-care!
Is health-care particularly complex? I'm biased as th
ison
>
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Drive
> Potomac, Maryland 20845
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com
> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org
> Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm
> osl...@listserv
> Also, are there any research protocols out there? Or ideas that you
> wish someone would research?
I don't know if I've shared this small idea here, but one possibility
might be to use webcams from above, so you may follow the behaviour of
bumblebees and butterflies - all without distracting th
http://linuxtoday.com/developer/2005022100126OSDV
"Leaders from three separate but related -- and incredibly successful
-- free/open source projects agree: If you want the project to move to
the next level, let go and let the community take over. We asked Larry
Wall, creator of Perl; Brian Behlend
--- Harrison Owen escribió:
> Lastly, an effective program need not be a large one. Frankly I find
> that working with 4-8 people to be a really rich experience -- and
> one-on-one is just mind-blowing.
Ok. I've read the book and googled for "open-space training". All
training I've read of is
--- Harrison Owen escribió:
> I think we all do what we can do -- but your efforts
> might be expanded were you to spend some time helping others to open
> their own space.
> In short do a training program. It doesn't have to be elaborate to be
> effective.
"Do a training program"? You mean par
>think about the 6 and 1/2 billion potential clients
>and come to the conclusion that we really don't have the
>couches or ashrams in sufficient number to do the job.
Do we, with OST? Could you imagine servicing so many clients, soon? I
like the idea very much, but how do we get from here to the
Of course I must agree that language is self-organizing - and so is
perception (I guess). Not that I understand how it works, but it
happens all by itself, so it must be self-organizing?
Language is part of a larger system, as it happens in countries where
there is more than one language. Quite
ood summary to share, too.
It sounds like a "wake up and smell the coffee" thing to me, but I must
confess I have that feeling frequently, so the feeling is probably
quite useless as a discrimination sensor. :)
Lucas
--- Lucas Gonzalez escribió:
> Hi all!
>
> I've j
Hi all!
I've just seen an interesting invitation at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/4974
which I feel may be of interest to some in this group.
>March 19 2005 - one hour of simultaneous drumming around the world
>http://www.oneworldbeat.org/owb2005/
>Los Angeles Sat 2:00 PM
--- Henri Lipmanowicz escribió:
>It is for me like "letting go of thinking" in that it seems to be
>happening by itself and I am like a spectator.
So this is how far "down" OS can "scale"! First it looked like it was
5 participants, then I thought it was down to one participant, but it
looks lik
raining www.openspaceworld.com
> Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org
> Personal website http://mywebpages.comcast.net/hhowen/index.htm
> osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
> Visit:
> http://listser
A book might be written cooperatively using, just as an example,
mediawiki + primarilypublicdomain + some software used to make things
easier.
1) Mediawiki is the software behind http://www.wikipedia.org and can be
used for the purpose of creating such a "book". If participants here
would care to
--- Zachary Metz escribió:
> Hi all,
>
> My colleagues and I here at the Center for International Conflict
> Resolution at Columbia have been asked to hold an Open Space on a
> question related to the role of civil society in supporting the peace
> process in Israel and Palestine. We are struggli
http://www.openspaceworld.org/iberia/iberia.cgi? is being filled up
with spam-content.
In an active wiki, good users can weed out the spam - if there are many
good users.
Some wikis request a password, something that can be as easy as a gif
file displaying a word: people can read it and type it in,
So it's "2 steps before OS", right?
- accept/recognise the power of informal organization
- ask if they want that power
- go ahead with theme etc
Sure looks easy. :-?
Lucas
--- Jack Ricchiuto escribió:
> It is the recognition that the
> watercooler of serendipity - the informal organization -
Thomas
http://www.openpeople.info/index.php/VirtualFlashMobs/GlobalLearnDay8SessionSchedule
Here you may find people interested in Education - just today it's
Global Learn Day. I haven't been able to participate - there were
voice conversations - I think it still goes on at this hour.
Learning
--- Chris Corrigan escribió:
> Thgis whole international collaboration thing is, as they say on the
> west coast, "blowing my mind." Faxes to Nigeria, 24 hour
> translations into Spanish, a multinational audio book...
>
> I think Kofi Annan should watch his back...we could be after his job!
>
> C
Peggy Holman writes:
> Is there ever a time when you have found it useful to do an OS with a
> subgroup before bringing the whole system together?
I was wondering about that myself. As a full newbie, looking at
stories from Colombia and Chile, and thinking about health care and
what's at hand for
[Translated with Johann Borquez and Marleny Muñoz's "presence", but my
fingers typed too fast! Thanks! Btw - even the extra paragraph is
translated - at the end. Thanks Peggy!]
BUEN TRABAJO PARA 2,000 MUCHACHOS DE LA CALLE COLOMBIANOS
¿Dónde comenzar a contar esta historia? Espero encauzar a d
--- Johann Borquez escribió:
> I wish I could translate this story into Spanish.
> Would you authorize me?
That makes it two translators at least. If you start at the very
beginning (call it "point 1%"), then I may start at the second half
("point 51%"). If more people join in then they may st
Peggy
¡Muchisimas gracias por compartirlo!
Thank you very much for sharing it! (in Spanish)
I've just forwarded your message to a friend who works with "Medicos
del Mundo" locally - my best local bet at gaining at least some
experience at doing whatever it takes to open space. I've also
attached
> Have conversations with those who think differently than you
> turned ... chilly?
I'd add "Are you ready to rethink whatever you think?". My feeling is
that space opens inside, mostly. Invitations (to oneself, to others)
may be powerful, sometimes.
>From here (a small island off the coast of
Peggy:
Thanks for the original theme!
> The topic became "Como puedo colaborar YO para que los empleadores
> nos sigan dando trabajo ahora y en el futuro?"
> Loosely translated (I think): How can I contribute to employers not
> cancelling work for us now and in the future?
"I" is always a capita
--- Chris Corrigan escribió:
> Congratulations Harrison, and big time thanks to Alex Kjerulf who
> kicked all this off and did countless hours of shepherding readers
> and chunks of text around.
All this reflections about metaphors ... in link below, Linus Torvalds
(Linux) says that, if he's a sh
> from 30,000 feet flying south to Bogota, Colombia,
> Peggy
> P.P.S. On Oct. 31 and Nov. 1, I'll be doing an OS with 1,700 street
> kids, ages 16-22 and about 300 adults. The topics, loosely
> translated from Spanish: How can I contribute to the efficient
> > functioning of the "work generation"
http://www.psp-sa.com/r2-02-1.htm (in Spanish) tells a story about an
empty bucket, which I translate badly:
The Queen died when giving simultaneous birth to 4 sons and a daughter.
When the 5 of them were old enough, the King had to choose his
successor, so he asked them for projects on how to mak
--- Alexander Kjerulf escribió:
> But from my personal point of view I would prefer to have each year a
> new "powerful question" on top of >OSonOS<.
> ... OST-meetings do indeed require a sense of urgency to work.
I guess sometimes urgency comes packaged from the outside ("a tiger in
the room"),
> the audio version of "The Practice of Peace."
> wide distribution and good listening.
> disappointed that my publisher has not been more forthcoming in terms
> of providing a web-home.
> However, I think there may be an opportunity here.
Yes I want to listen to the whole book, too!
Some ideas/q
As an absolute outsider, I think the main theme for an OSonOS gathering
(meeting, "reunión" in Spanish, I wonder about other languages) could
be "what can OS do for the World that it still hasn't done? how to get
there?"
This is of course just with the intention of annoying you all. :-)
Which rea
Hi all!
It's summertime here in the (relative) north.
One way to foster OS (and Peace) would be to display information on
dates, places and themes. A webdatabase associated to a map. People
would add entries for new events, and the events would delete
themselves once the date is over.
Rural ho
http://ming.tv/flemming2.php?did=10&vid=10&xmode=show_article&amode=standard&aoffset=0&artid=10-001315&time=1089373412#comments
(as usual, I hope this doesn't come out as two lines - it should be one)
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> Could the 300 or so subscribers to oslist do an on line OS on the
> global questions or on a particular current crisis?
> You might find the politicians lurking about on the list looking for
> all the really clever ideas that would emerge.
I can almost imagine *that* happening! :)
But I don't
I'm quite sure experienced openspacers may resonate with this.
http://ming.tv/flemming2.php/_d10/_v10/__show_day/_w2004-07-01#10-001307
(careful in case the link reaches you in two lines - it should be one
long line)
It's about non-verbal communication and status. The author is
concerned not
A couple of days ago I learnt about bees and temperature.
When the temperature rises, each worker-bee feels it's too hot and
starts flapping its wings. (When it's too cold they gather near.)
But:
- each bee is sensitive to different temperature threshold. This
difference is genetically determined
I like a story told by Daniel Quinn about an animal in a far away
planet, I think an octopus, who is interviewed by an anthropologist
coming from Earth.
The octopus tells the story of life in its planet: first molecules,
then cells, then multicell beings ... and finally, octopuses.
The proud "and
Chris (and all)
Thanks for your comments - I think I may have dramatized my idea a bit
too much, so sorry about that. :) I'll keep in contact with "my
londoners" respecting their busy lives.
This thread was ignited by the question "should groups try and
summarize OS events with drawings?" I'm j
I can only bring my small frustration to this issue: there have been OS
gatherings in London (http://www.wtfcon.org) which I couldn't attend as
I live some 3 thousand miles away.
I know we all have to negotiate with reality, but to me the invitation
wasn't all that "open". Did the internet-experi
> Epidemics tend to grow slowly at the beginning, then faster, then
> slower again.
> Do you think OST has a ceiling in this regard? Why?
--- "Pannwitz, Michael M" escribió:
> am curious why you have that question.
> Especially under the condition that epidemics have the tendency to
> wipe out t
--- Larry Peterson escribió:
> Self-organization -- it happened at Abu Grade Prison in Iraq with the
> help of the conditions being created by the system and the culture of
> an army and country.
http://www.prisonexp.org gives information about an experiment where a
group of students were recrui
> Or any more chapters to be found?
> Trusting on the creativity of this community...
A note on this publication, Preface, Foreword.
A special preface for the audio book - written by whom?
The table of contents - just being silly, but I don't know what it is
to be blind or sight challenged - do
Thomas
I guess you've already tried all this:
http://www.positivesharing.com/journal/0405.htm
Specifically, "mono, not stereo". Maybe some other details like
quality, compression, etc.
I'm not sure if you can do that on an already recorded file - but it
should be possible. Maybe the "try-t
> I used the suggested software and the file type is "Wave-sound".
I don't have the software here, but try "save as ..." and select MP3 -
much smaller.
Regards from warm Canaries,
Lucas
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Alex
Thanks for your work!
> I'm still waiting for Harrisons publisher to tell me, where they want
> the files placed, but I was thinking that we might go ahead and find
> a temporary place until then. Any suggestions where that might be?
> Then when the publisher finds a place, we can either mov
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/4108
This message drafts a proposal to the World Bank for a Campaign
for Working Openly. They will connect "independent thinkers" who work
with "limited (or no) internet access" - generously, in the public
domain.
I'm not sure, but I think th
Joelle wrote:
> How about a children's book which offered Harrison's idea of making a
> space large enough for all the voices, and all the points of view?
> I could see something with animals, bumping out the circle to make
> space for large and small animals and all their different voices and
> ne
--- Joelle Lyons Everett escribió: > Lucas--
>
> That was not a criticism of the book's long sentences, which are
> sometimes
> complex, always clear.
No criticism intended of course! (Having to understand a long sentence
to read it out loud properly meant deep reading for me, which was
good!)
> The reading was fun and challenging--all those lovely LONG
> sentences--
Short sentences are for children's books.
Not suggesting anything here. Just wondering. A few questions,
really.
Lucas
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> I too wonder how others felt ...
Exhausting to find the time late at night after all the other things
that pile up.
Boring to wait for the old computer to do it's job, and for the
wonderful copper+satellite thingies to carry it over to someone and
"whatever happens next is what happens next".
Fr
> Excellent! I suggest yuo hang on to the file, even if it means
> missing the deadline :o)
> I've been in touch with Harrisons publisher, who wanted to host the
> audio files on their website, so I'm waiting for instructions on how
> to get them up there.
I've arranged for some FTP space at one o
Hello Colin and all
>I have held off from announcing it on this list as I wanted to be
>certain of the role that Open Space will play.
Sorry!!! :)
> The organisers have an ambition that Be the Change will be a
> simultaneous event in 4-5 different places in 2005. They are very
> open to the ide
I've received a message which you can see at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minciu_sodas_en/message/4061
(I include a copy below, for convenience)
It's about http://www.bethechange.org.uk - they are organizing an event
for May 19-21, 2004 London "to explore the means of achieving true and
effective
http://www.forumsocialmundial.org.br/dinamic.asp?pagina=bal_amit_2004_ing
And the person named in HO's previous email wrote an article after
WSF2003 saying the WSF was to be kept as a "space" and not as a
"movement".
Lucas
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Artur writes
> [...] in this list messages in other languages are welcome.
> But I think that this must be used only for "ocasional messages".
> The normal discussion in the OSLIST must be in English, because that
> is the denominator of all of us.
Agreed! Let's use ea-wiki-iberia and please lead
I volunteer too - whatever chapter.
I can also be dropped if there's too many people.
Lucas Gonzalez
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