Re: Adios Amigos

2003-01-28 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Proceedings of OS Online Conf "The global Tide of OS"

2003-01-18 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Please speak to me of breath....

2002-10-11 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: AW: Using digital cameras...

2002-10-01 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Doug, yes, I will take what you say "letting the space hold us and touch us might be good, too.", as a contribution to how I explain to myself, what happens in holding space. you write: "allowing the space and those in it to overlap into us" Yes, in a way, but that does not mean that I am not pro

Re: AW: Using digital cameras...

2002-09-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: AW: Using digital cameras...

2002-09-26 Thread WB-TrainConsult
-world. Bernd Weber Organization Development Consultant "DEVELOP YOUR CAPACITIES - MATERIALIZE YOUR VISION" C.P. 1462, Beira, Sofala, MOZAMBIQUE fone: +258-3-32 98 59, cellfone:+258-82-43 79 77 - WB-TrainConsult management- & human resources training, consulting

Re: More on Oral Cultures

2002-09-25 Thread WB-TrainConsult
communication between the mac- and ms-world. Bernd Weber Organization Development Consultant "DEVELOP YOUR CAPACITIES - MATERIALIZE YOUR VISION" C.P. 1462, Beira, Sofala, MOZAMBIQUE fone: +258-3-32 98 59, cellfone:+258-82-43 79 77 - WB-TrainConsult management- & human reso

Re: OS in oral cultures - long

2002-09-19 Thread WB-TrainConsult
John, (and the others participating in this thread) thank you for being "long" in your writing. Oh, I am not at all in a hurry. I started asking the list before beeing in any situation of urgency. I want to use the time to get a maximum of discussion and thinking and understanding. My OD-tandem-

OS in oral cultures

2002-09-17 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Open Space in Oral Cultures

2002-09-16 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Using digital cameras...

2002-09-15 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: AW: Using digital cameras...

2002-09-15 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: The Practice of Peace

2002-09-14 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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U.Avnery's letter to a Pilot

2002-08-25 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Opening space, transfer-in, small spaces

2002-07-14 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Peace Resolution

2002-06-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Hi Dan, great, absolutely crazy, indigestible. I will consume it in tiny pieces. Bernd - web...@gmx.at, on 29.06.2002 at 17:35:46 (GMT/UT + 02:00) My anti-virus precautions: 1) attached to this e-mail : No file 2) All attached files are mentioned by name in the line above this one. Please d

Fwd: Re: FW: FW: Transfer in Process

2002-06-20 Thread WB-TrainConsult
I fully agree; I wouldn't do any of this at the beginning of an OS event. That is, what I like so very much at OST: the technique of preparation and facilitation is already simple in the sense of clearly condensed to the minimum. You do not need any more additional X. Bernd - web...@gmx.at, on

Re: Butterflies

2002-06-19 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Yes Toni, isn't it great that one and the same "feeling" of our body can be interpreted in such a variety of ways depending on the frame we are putting If we do not care for that fact our 'head' seems to be quit a bad auto-pilot sometimes There is obviously a complex process going on where we us

Re: Advice needed

2002-06-18 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Joelle, thanks, your contribution will help me to "reframe" this not easily defineable feeling, which is not fear, but near to it, so that we intuitively tend to interprete it as such. I am always full of "butterflies in my stomach" (funny, we also use the same metaphor in the german language) befo

Re: Palestinians and Israelis in Rome - long

2002-06-14 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Harrison, thank you for this sharing of your (self-) analysis. Great teaching for me about principles, pre-concepts and gut-feeling in very difficult situations Bernd - wb-traincons...@gmx.net 14.06.2002 at 17:34:01 (GMT/UT + 02:00) On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:33:26 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: I

Re: a first step from Rome

2002-06-14 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Glory, I wanted to give a short answer. I was not able to do so. So I do not post it to the list, but send it off-list to you. Thanks again for your feedbacks to me. Bernhard Glory and all, It is long, because I usually do not yet understand clearly, what I am writing about, so I e

Re: therapy and OST

2002-06-13 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: a first step from Rome (long)

2002-06-13 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Harrison, Florian, Kenoli, Julie,Winston and all participants of these emerging threads, wb-traincons...@gmx.net 13.06.2002 at 11:00:03 (GMT/UT + 02:00) On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 07:57:34 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote: If anything the conflict is magnified, but space is provided so that the conflict, and th

Re: More on Empowerment - Moderation and Languages

2002-05-31 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Chris, Artur and all   On Tue, 28 May 2002 11:56:11 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: > Presupposition 1 - Human beings have volume! Volume certainly shows up in a chat room for example, be the sheer numbers of people.     As you write: it is numbers, and of course numbers can be to large to be ha

Re: Some unwritten pressupositions of OST

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Hi Artur, great new thread you are opening here! Looking at the pressupositions has always marked an essential point in the development of thinking&acting traditions. A point which marks maturing in the sense of overcoming naive & naturalistic approaches. Typical examples are physics (and some of

Re: More on Empowerment - Short

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
On Tue, 28 May 2002 11:58:33 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: Don Ferretti wrote: > I missed a lot of the 'empowerment" conversation so I'm not sure how relevant this comment is. I assume the moderator will screen it. I had to laugh..we don't have a moderator that screens postings here for relevance.

Re: More on Empowerment - Short

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Don, I got your point. An interesting second go for the thread. It happens quite often to me, that after critizising a word for beeing unaccurate, misleading etc. I still have to live with the fact, that for historical reasins it is THE word used by most of the people. So I redefine what it means

Re: Is the OSlist an OS setting?

2002-05-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Would it not be clearer to express it by a aporetic contradiction which facilitates to not misunderstand "nobody is in charge" in a reductional logic way: NOBODY IS IN CHARGE - EVERYBODY IS IN CHARGE? Bernhard - web...@gmx.at, on 29.05.2002 at 06:02:17 (GMT/UT + 02:00) My anti-virus precauti

Meeting U. Avnery & J. Arafat

2002-05-15 Thread WB-TrainConsult
A description of this meeting witten by U.Avnery arrived in my postbox this moment. If anybody is interested, I will pass it on. Bernhard - wb-traincons...@gmx.net 15.05.2002 at 10:15:59 (GMT/UT + 02:00) * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate

Re: Development phases

2002-05-14 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Thank you Koos, it might be, once again, a question of words. For my understanding I would translate "middle position" to "beeing centered". Bernhard - wb-traincons...@gmx.net 14.05.2002 at 07:11:34 (GMT/UT + 02:00) On Mon, 13 May 2002 14:57:58 +0200, Koos de Heer wrote: Dear Bernhard, Thos

Re: "empowerment" is a disempowering concept

2002-05-13 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: [Fwd: Re: A Partial Diary of the Collective Buddha]

2002-05-13 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Yes, Doris, I think you are right. To put it in other words: without boundaries no identity whatsoever. Bernhard - web...@gmx.at, on 13.05.2002 at 13:47:58 (GMT/UT + 02:00) On Mon, 13 May 2002 09:15:43 +0200, Doris Gottlieb wrote: "I often think of boundaries as part of the structure of "the

Re: Fw: OST as a conference track

2002-05-10 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: List of Change Facilitators Worldwide

2002-05-06 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Holding Space in Emergent Systems

2002-05-02 Thread WB-TrainConsult
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:28:55 -0700, Laurel and Rick wrote: "It's always seemed to me that the rough equivalent of the Tao in "western thought was the ancient Greek notion of the Logos, "that "which steers all things through all things"(Democritus). Laurel, thank you. Interesting to go back to the

Re: \Holding space

2002-05-02 Thread WB-TrainConsult
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:58:26 -0700, Chris Corrigan wrote: "That is, I was conscious of letting go of many attachments, "especially those that were about outcome, and things like my sponsor "showing up, the food being cooked for dozens who weren't there and "so on. Dear Chris, Audrey and all, Than

Re: ITS OVER WHEN THE BOSS SPEAKS...

2002-04-25 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Naming matters

2002-04-25 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: world map

2002-03-28 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Learning organizations, impacts and longevity

2002-02-06 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: A Question about self-organizing systems

2002-02-01 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: A Question about self-organizing systems

2002-02-01 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-30 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Jeff, thank you for your "bit of research on shalom". I passed it on to my personal egroup (I hope this is okay?) There it connects to a thread of discussion about the awful & detoriating situation in Zimbabwe, which could easily lead to another war in southern africa. Large scale destruction of

Re: self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Doug and all of you shalom thank you Bernhard On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:17:54 -0500, Douglas D. Germann, Sr. wrote: >Bernhard-- > >I remember reading one time that peace (shalom, I think) in the >ancient >Hebrew language connoted not just lack of violence but wholeness, >fruitfulness, abundance. So

Re: self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: self organizing systems and world peace

2002-01-29 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: All the non-users guide - May I read it?

2002-01-28 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: First OS in Sofala Province, Mozambique

2002-01-10 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: Last minute (gulp!) help...midnight check in

2002-01-10 Thread WB-TrainConsult
ance. I read your late night posting and Birgits answer. I think she is right. Your plan sounds also right to me. I send you best wishes from southeastern Africa Bernhard WB-TrainConsult management- & human resources training, consulting & development - Gumpendorfer Straße 88b/18, AT-106

Re: First OS in Sofala Province, Mozambique

2002-01-10 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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Re: First OS in Sofala Province, Mozambique

2002-01-09 Thread WB-TrainConsult
.. so lets see how things are going... Bernhard - Bernd Weber wb-traincons...@gmx.net, on 09.01.2002 at 12:58:51 Organization Development Consultant "DEVELOP YOUR CAPACITIES - MATERIALIZE YOUR VISION" C.P. 1462, Beira, Sofala, MOZAMBIQUE fone: +258-3-32 98 59, cellfone:+

Re: conflict resolution (branching off from self organization...)

2002-01-09 Thread WB-TrainConsult
Michaël Molenaar just told me that the link I gave is actually not working. I tried again and it seems that the server is down. Sorry! So if you are interested please try the following alternatives (http://www.reliefweb.int/training/t289.html (International Training Programme for Conflict Manag

Re: conflict resolution (branching off from self organization...)

2002-01-08 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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First OS in Sofala Province, Mozambique

2002-01-08 Thread WB-TrainConsult
in such a situation without any passion emerging? Was the general topic not adequate? (2) Did others who worked with OS in african contexts perceive the same attitude to find others who should do the work, when it comes to action planning? Did we just invite the wrong people? Bernhard

Personal presentation Bernd Weber

2002-01-08 Thread WB-TrainConsult
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