Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-02-10 Thread Jamie Colston
Thank you Chris for this line Please never try to Open Space for other people bigger than the space you are willing to open for yourself. Beautiful reminder *Jamie Colston* Enabling young people to design inspiring events and host conversations that matter to them, empowering them to find their

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-02-09 Thread Brett Barndt
Hi there TKS It is now critical that we develop the vocabulary and taxonomy we need to understand these systems through and through. In the case of the US and the EU now, the money systems are now being arrayed against the home Metropolis in ways normally used against countries and nations "in the

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-02-09 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear Brett, in the meantime, there are some not so very difficult things one can do, or rather: I did and do. When still living in the USA in the sixties and early seventies, I worked in a horribly poor area in Southeast Missouri, the northernmost part of the Mississipi Delta where ordinary f

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-02-08 Thread Brett Barndt
I agree. I am the system because I know nothing about how it really works. I look forward to the day when we can all speak about comparative money systems, with their attendant pros and cons, and social implications, the way we can describe world cafe, open space, or future search! Then the syste

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Corrigan
Yes. Banks had much to do with what is happening in Zimbabwe. And these days I have to hear that as *I* have much to do with what is happening in Zim. I believe we need to work at systems change by remembering how embedded we are in it. This is why I long ago have up on the idea of neutral facil

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)- spaces your are willing to open for yourself

2013-02-01 Thread Gijs Mega
Hi Chris, The first time I saw you was in the circle in San Francisco 2008. Your kids took part as well and "lived" the law of 2 feet, and shifted from butterflying to bumble being. Observing this was great : open space life. Your comments on the list are often a real contribution. So was your

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-31 Thread ANNE BENNETT
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Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-31 Thread Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
Chris: I appreciate your reflexions and you sharing them with us. Being an open space facilitator for me makes me change a lot and grow in many ways I find that it is a progressive transformation of my life in the outside and in the inside. Opening the space is at the same time so simple and at th

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-31 Thread Brett Barndt
Interesting re: blindspots. We also have to fill up some blind spots about the law codes that setup these institutions and enforce certain very narrow behaviors in our banks and corporations. The laws enforcing corporate behavior and money creation in private hands extend back to 17th century Engla

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-31 Thread John Watkins
I love this. So true. John On Jan 31, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote: > Gandhi said "it is not the English that hold us, it is us that hold them." > It is not the banks that need to change. It is us, with our blindspots to > our own privilege that need to open space in our own live

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-31 Thread Esther Ewing
Well said, Chris. Bravo! I find it is a journey of a lifetime to be open to our blind spots! Big Tree Strategies Tel: 416-792-0971 Cell: 647-461-0971 Change that's grounded On Jan 31, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote: > Perhaps the more accurate statement is that bansk are necessary fo

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-31 Thread Chris Corrigan
Perhaps the more accurate statement is that bansk are necessary for THIS economy, but not other forms of economy. The question to ask ourselves is are we prepared to have THIS economy disappear overnight but having banks disappear pronto. In 2008, the US government followed by others said "no" an

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-30 Thread Brett Barndt
"One thing is that banks are necessary for the development of the economy..." Banks are not necessary to create money for the economy. That is one myth we need to get over, pronto! On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jorge Amigo wrote: > Dear community. > It's interesting how the video has generat

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-30 Thread Jorge Amigo
Dear community. It's interesting how the video has generated many comments and open a debate on banks. We can not forget that the video is publicity, good publicity, very well done. Fulfills its purpose of seducing. Makes you want to go to the bank to ask for a loan (a joke). Nothing here is im

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-29 Thread Brett Barndt
Harrison, Great to see this topic on OSlist. Very very very important for caring, concerned, and socially engaged people to educate ourselves about this important and fundamental topic. In fact, there are alternatives to this system and Sh* does not need to happen quite like it does. The Sh* is a

Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

2013-01-29 Thread Harrison Owen
Eleder – As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly