[OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-18 Thread Birgitt Williams via OSList
Dear friends and colleagues in Open Space, When you facilitate an OST meeting in an organization, it is the formal leader who opens the space inside his/her organization for this meeting to take place. Whether the leader feels well versed in what OST is or is simply going along with something that

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-20 Thread Thomas Perret via OSList
Birgitt, This seems spot on regarding lasting change, I liked it a lot. "The answer has consistently been about the leadership capacity of the leadership team to lead an organization of people who are engaged in the ways that were visible in the OST meeting. This is a vulnerable conversation to

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-20 Thread Birgitt Williams via OSList
Dear Thomas, Thank you for your thoughtful reply. You raised the following points/question and I am responding to this "One thing came to mind from a managers perspective. I think of a challenge regarding legal responsibility for the assets. If it’s my company, I take the risk by myself. If I am h

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-20 Thread R Chaffe via OSList
Brigitte and Thomas, In negotiations leading to the opening of space it is vital that the “givens” or “boundaries” are defined based on the authority of the manager to set things within their control/responsibility. Failing to do this results in a disaster for all involved. The governance issu

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-21 Thread Thomas Perret via OSList
Birgitt, Thank you for your reply and your thoughts. The conversation format worked smoothly for me, even added a level of depth I would say. I am fascinated by accountability/responsibility and how things shift with it. One question came up there: I’m not sure about the difference between ac

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-21 Thread Thomas Perret via OSList
Thanks Paul! I would love to hear managers and “normal-workers-turned-managers” talk about their experiences and milestones in overcoming. Kind regards, Thomas > On 21 Jul 2019, at 5.19, R Chaffe via OSList > wrote: > > Brigitte and Thomas, > In negotiations leading to the opening of space

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-22 Thread Birgitt Williams via OSList
Hi Thomas, you asked about responsibility and accountability and my perspective regarding the two. I understand that the distinction between these two is not made in some cultures/countries, with both being combined as 'responsibility'. In my perspective, this is not as helpful as making a distin

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-22 Thread Birgitt Williams via OSList
Hi Rob, I appreciate your emphasis on the 'givens' for an OST meeting. I was thinking about your wisdom of the step by step process that is needed in an organization. This relates to my experience of helping the organization practice and develop its capacity for working with OST...and as you refer

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-23 Thread R Chaffe via OSList
Thanks Birgitt, I think it is called maturity- that is the process of redefining the boundaries. The “sigmoid “ curve or organisational performance show us that as we accelerate and broaden our “givens” the organisation needs to invigorate itself lest it slide into a comfort zone chocked by its

Re: [OSList] action reflection learning track for leaders who have experienced OST in their organizations

2019-07-24 Thread Thomas Perret via OSList
Dear Birgitt, Thank you! Also for the illustrating example. Kind regards, Thomas ___ All is possible together > On 23 Jul 2019, at 1.09, Birgitt Williams via OSList > wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > you asked about responsibility and accountability and my perspective > regarding the two. > > I u