[OSList] control?

2014-06-23 Thread Michael Wood
In OST work we may find ourselves declaring that 'no one is in control'. I think that's probably largely true in my own experience. I rarely feel like I'm in control of anything, and certainly not of anyone else. Realising this has been very liberating. And yet what are the full implications o

Re: [OSList] control?

2014-06-23 Thread David Osborne
Michael My experience of human systems is that control is often exerted and it's actually rare that it isn't. Exerting control is very different to me than bing in control. While those exerting control may have a high degree of influence in the system but they are not in complete control. Exte

Re: [OSList] control?

2014-06-24 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Michael, In response to your corollary, I think the feeling of being controlled (not free) comes from not knowing how (knowledge) and/or not being able (available resources, belief system, physical barrier) to fulfill your human needs. For me, the level of pain experienced in exercising your freedo

Re: [OSList] control?

2014-06-24 Thread Harrison Owen
reflect on what happens. Just notice... when you gave up control useful things happened. It won't happen all at once (for sure!) - but the Times they are a 'changing. Someone said. ho From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wood S

Re: [OSList] control?

2014-06-24 Thread paul levy
as Michael > points out, can be extreme. But life by definition is risky. No risk – no > life. Or something. But our special gift to the situation is to enable > people to reflect on what happens. Just notice... when you gave up control > useful things happened. It won’t happen all at on

Re: [OSList] control?

2014-06-26 Thread David Osborne
e cost as Michael > points out, can be extreme. But life by definition is risky. No risk – no > life. Or something. But our special gift to the situation is to enable > people to reflect on what happens. Just notice... when you gave up control > useful things happened. It won’t happen all a

Re: [OSList] control?

2014-06-26 Thread Spark
Dear ho, Yes, no one can be in control as always.^^ 원본 메일 제목: Re: [OSList] control?보낸사람: David Osborne 보낸날짜: 금, 2014-06-27 07:28받는사람: World wide Open Space Technology email list 참조: Simply brilliant Harrison. Thanks for your sharing as

[OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-10 Thread Harrison Owen
Keith wrote: "Loss (or perceived loss?) of control is also something that some senior leaders struggle with." True - and not only in Open Space. It may be my own perversity, but I find this to be a very useful struggle which may bring these folks to a deeper understanding of themselves, the org

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Artur Silva
Thanks for your tough provoking post, Harrison. Some thoughts and questions inline. From: Harrison Owen To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, an

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Harrison Owen
.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:58 AM To: World wide Open Sp

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Michael Herman
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Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Birgitt Williams
, September 11, 2011 11:06 AM To: 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof Herewith Artur… Space closes, innovation withers, agility get clunky – and organizational health shows criti

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
ernational 480.759.0262 www.innovationpartners.com On Sep 11, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Artur Silva wrote: Thanks for your tough provoking post, Harrison. Some thoughts and questions inline. From: Harrison Owen To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' > Sent: Saturday, September

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Harrison Owen
ech.org From: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Christine Whitney Sanchez Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:08 PM To: Artur Silva; World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Harrison Owen
t-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Birgitt Williams Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 4:07 PM To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'; 'Artur Silva' Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof Dear friends and colleagues, A story that comes to

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Reading rapidly through this thread about loss or perceived loss of control that senior leaders (and many others including me still) struggle with, I feel compassion. Having worked with many leaders, many very good folks, knowing the expectations placed on them, roles they did not always ask for a

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Harrison Owen
ech.org] On Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:19 PM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof Reading rapidly through this thread about loss or perceived loss of control that senior leader

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-11 Thread Suzanne Daigle
Totally agree Harrison. It just always seemed that the higher up you are fewer people to talk to...lonely at the top kind of thing and stuck in the trappings though much more opportunity than most to make a difference. Suzanne On Sep 11, 2011 7:50 PM, "Harrison Owen" wrote: ___

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-12 Thread Blundell, Keith
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof Reading rapidly through this thread about loss or perceived loss of control that senior leaders (and many others including me still) struggle with, I feel compassion. Having

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-12 Thread doug
Christine-- Wonderful choice of words. I have added them to my favorite quotes file! On Sun, 2011-09-11 at 13:08 -0700, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote: > Life is always more interesting than my own expectations. :- Doug. ___

Re: [OSList] Control, Perceived Control, and the Loss Thereof

2011-09-18 Thread Artur Silva
" but are now "bad guys". And yes, I can be sure that, in my country, they still exist, even if they now use different methods...   Regards   Artur        From: Harrison Owen To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' Sent: Sund