In a message dated 11/19/04 3:24:47 PM, hho...@comcast.net writes:
> Bob wrote: "Sometimes I'd rather be free to explore within a known boundary
> than not know when I was going to drop off the edge of the
> world."
>
> I guess I could say something like . . . only a flatlander worries about
> f
the space is too open.
Ain't our diversity great?
Peggy
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From: "Chris Corrigan"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Givens -- Again : some comments
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:28:11 EST, everett...@aol.com
wrote:
1.
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:28:11 EST, everett...@aol.com wrote:
>
> 1. When an ant carrying a stick comes to another stick, it puts its stick
> down.
> 2. When an ant not carrying a stick comes to a stick, it picks the stick
> up (and carries it until rule 1 occurs).
>
> That will build an ant h
- Original Message -
From: "Artur Silva"
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Givens -- Again : some comments
> Thanks, for speaking up, Chris.
>
>
> --- chris weaver wrote:
> > So, Artur, Harrison, et al: Does this hurt the
>
In a complicated way, I think givens can be very empowering. But they
have to be real givens.
I think the last time I talked about this a couple of years ago, I
used the story of people inventing the airplane. The Wright brothers
had a good sense of the givens of flight: gravity, air pressure, l
form part of this context
Doris (an avid reader and not often writer)
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu]Namens Bob Dick
Verzonden: vrijdag 19 november 2004 23:43
Aan: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Onderwerp: Re: Givens -- Again : some
Thanks, for speaking up, Chris.
--- chris weaver wrote:
> So, Artur, Harrison, et al: Does this hurt the
> event? Does this disrespect
> the people?
No, I don't think it does and (if I understood well)
it is even an interesting way to make some previous
undiscussable ideas of the sponsor disc
Fascinating discussion.
I don't think givens are always useless. I do agree that they
can limit creativity and exploration. I also think there is
another aspect to the issue.
Sometimes I'd rather be free to explore within a known boundary
than not know when I was going to drop off the edge of t
ehalf Of Bob Dick
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:43 PM
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Subject: Re: Givens -- Again : some comments
Fascinating discussion.
I don't think givens are always useless. I do agree that they
can limit creativity and exploration. I also think there is
another aspect
te deeper understanding, and to facilitate a
smooth and powerful integration of the OST event into the realities of the
ongoing work.
My two cents! Thanks, Artur, for flushing me out ;-)
Chris
As OST facilitators,
> From: Artur Silva
> Reply-To: OSLIST
> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:32:09 -080
Hi all:
What I find interesting is that everyone that spoke
this time seems to be in accordance that "givens" are
useless (with some minor observations of caution, in
some cases).
This compares with the big discussions in the previous
times the question was raised. Of course, I am happy
that now
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