OST and Open Forums

2004-05-03 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Hi Harrison and others! Thanks for your reply on this. I haven't seen an Open Forum yet, nor try to facilitate one. But I am not sure at this point I am ready to agree that processwork is about Arny (or anyone else) working too hard. OS, for now, is just another piece of the large group transfor

OST and Open Forums

2004-05-06 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
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OST and Open Forums

2004-05-07 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Well, you do describe one option: stir them up. Another is to invite them to go seek a more productive place to be in. Might cost you your customer. Certainly is less work. An entirely other option is to have a planning session where this stuff is put on the table. Reason I mention this: just facil

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-04 Thread Erich Kolenaty
Hi Raffi, Open Forum is a very common setting in Real Strategic Change Conferences. I used ist many times in conferences even in organizations right befor an Open Space. I find it very helpful to set a common database, which is in many cases very important to help people understand the larger pic

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-04 Thread Artur Silva
--- Erich Kolenaty wrote: > > Open Forum is a very common setting in Real > Strategic Change Conferences. I > used ist many times (...) Erich Can you (or any other) please make a summary in a few sentences about what is Open Forum amd how it compares with OST. I went to Arny's site, but in the

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-04 Thread Erich Kolenaty
- Original Message - Can you (or any other) please make a summary in a few sentences about what is Open Forum amd how it compares with OST. Artur Artur, Dannemiller-Tyson folks call an "Open Forum" a sequence of specific steps to work on informations (especially in organizations

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-04 Thread Jeff Aitken
I can see that the Mindells mean something different when they say "open forum". I found this link to a short description of their "open forum":   http://www.democracyinnovations.org/openforums.html   from the link:   The goal of open forums is to bring together people representing the entire sp

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-04 Thread Artur Silva
--- Erich Kolenaty wrote: > - Original Message - > > Dannemiller-Tyson folks call an "Open Forum" a > sequence of specific steps to > work on informations (especially in organizations). > Here we go: Thanks very much, Erich. If have understood wel it is very similar to RTSC. And agai

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-05 Thread Artur Silva
--- Jeff Aitken wrote: - I can see that the Mindells mean something different when they say "open forum". I found this link to a short description of their "open forum": http://www.democracyinnovations.org/openforums.html - Thanks, Jeff. I red the site w

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-07 Thread Erich Kolenaty
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Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-07 Thread Artur Silva
--- Erich Kolenaty wrote: > it IS RTSC. And it IS more directive than OS, > ofcourse. On a scale for > "Openess" between 0 and 100, OS maybe range at 85, > and a RTSC. Open Forum at > 65. But, so what? > > In my opinion the task IS NOT to keep it max. open > at anytime (which sounds > to me to be

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-09 Thread Harrison Owen
l -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Raffi Aftandelian Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 3:31 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: OST and Open Forums Hi Harrison and others! Thanks for your reply on this. I haven't seen an Open

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-09 Thread Artur Silva
Harrison: --- Harrison Owen wrote: > In fact, I > increasingly see Open Space Technology as a "halfway > technology" - an > interesting and useful step on a journey. More about > this later. I would like to know more about that. I am curious but also somewhat afraid of what will unfold... Artu

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-09 Thread Phil Culhane
ease... What's next? Let's go! Phil Culhane -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Artur Silva Sent: May 9, 2004 9:27 AM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: OST and Open Forums Harrison: --- Harrison Owen wrote: &

Re: OST and Open Forums

2004-05-10 Thread BrendanMcKeague
Harrison - I'm wondering if you're considering another book - The Practice of Being I think it was Gandhi or A J Muste who said 'there is no road to peace, peace is the road' So, in Open Space, we 'are peace' if we have to work too hard to get it - for others - its not very peaceful

On the openness of the word open (was: OST and Open Forums) (long)

2004-05-07 Thread Artur Silva
Summary In this post I will discuss ONLY some linguistic questions about the use of the word "open" to qualify another name, be it "forum" or "space" or... Will try to prove that the fact that someone uses the word "open" doesn't mean that the space is necessarily opened, and sometimes it is even

Re: On the openness of the word open (was: OST and Open Forums) (long)

2004-05-07 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Artur, for the reminder that the name someone puts on an event does not guarantee the quality of what happens. Even a certification process would not guarantee that "certified" practitioners would not stray from the simple and great design of OST. There's very little way of keeping peop