Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-25 Thread Peggy S. Holman
nal Message - From: Harrison Owen To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Larry -- they did give me some warning. Sort of like . . . there may be some "pol

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-25 Thread Winston Kinch
Ho to you, Harrison; and to Birgitt... wk - Original Message - From: Harrison Owen To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Larry -- they did give me some warning. Sort of like

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-25 Thread Harrison Owen
esday, August 25, 2004 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Thanks for the truth Harrison - about the event and about your experience in it. Did you see any of it coming in the planning before the event? Sometimes it is a real surprise when

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-25 Thread Larry Peterson
Thanks for the truth Harrison - about the event and about your experience in it. Did you see any of it coming in the planning before the event? Sometimes it is a real surprise when the air is out, the dead moose in on the table and the spirit is ebbing. I'm not clear from your story when you "lef

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-25 Thread karen gorrin
There is a saying that goes something like this, "If you love something, set it free. If it comes back to you it's yours. If it doesn't, it never was." These words feel relevant here. With the act of stepping aside, IMHO Harrison truly allowed room for ALL possibilities of outcome: the energy of t

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-23 Thread EVERETT813
In a message dated 8/22/04 1:10:41 PM, fundao...@superonline.com writes: > > Maybe the question is " can we open more space in our hearts for conflict > and respect those who are in conflict?" > > Lisa's and Harrison's reactions reminded me the difference between male& > female dealing with c

Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-23 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Harrison-- << Last thought. I don't think I was describing a new way to conclude and << Open Space. If anything it was more about kick starting the whole << operation with a radical re-opening of Space. It was also about giving << everybody the clear opportunity to make their own choices in a

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Funda Oral
ay, August 22, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Doug -- I am not so sure that this is really a fork in the road -- somehow that image is just too linear, suggesting that there is a single road. It feels to me rather more like a deepening of

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Harrison Owen
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Maybe the question is " can we open more space in our hearts for conflict and respect those who are in conflict?" Lisa's and Harrison's reactions reminde

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Elwin and Joan
--- Lisa Heft wrote: Harrison- I totally 'got' that you were fully engaged, and also knowing you and having seen you work I know that you would have found just the right way to say what you were doing without in any way leveraging it or implying anything by it. I also feel that people in the cir

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Harrison Owen
tation. In Open Space or elsewhere. - Original Message - From: Lisa Heft To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Hmmm. I have reopened the circle the next morning

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Lisa Heft
Yes, Harrison - You said: I totally 'got' that you were fully engaged, and also knowing you and having seen you work I know that you would have found just the right way to say what you were doing without in any way leveraging it or implying anything by it. I also feel that people in the circle

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
As Toke said, this is a great conversation about "being in the fire." One of my fiery times was a two-day Open Space for a nonprofit organization that had been informed that unless they restructured to serve a larger region, they would lose the funding that supported their service work in their co

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Funda Oral
From: "Douglas D. Germann, Sr." <76066@compuserve.com> To: Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:53 AM Subject: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling > Harrison-- > > It seems to me you have invented a different way to conclude OST. I think > there are

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Lisa Heft
Hmmm. I have reopened the circle the next morning with a bit of a challenge to participants ('you can spend today telling the story as it has been, or you can tell the new story beginning today' or 'if you want to spend today describing the problem, as you did yesterday, feel free - if you want to

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread toke
Thank you for offering these real stories.Harrison I have been close to this several times, but never had to practice leaving to practice that kind of trust with the whole group fully - it may find me soon who knows What has helped me so far when these moments occur with clients or the

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Michael Herman
non-convergence is written up in some detail here, funda... http://www.globalchicago.net/wiki/wiki.cgi?NonConvergence and doug, i would say that what harrison did was a big version of non-convergence. reopening the space for whatever wanted to happen next, rather than pushing for action plans

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Michael Herman
you'll find some samples here, funda. varying degrees of provocative, evocative and imaginative. and still they all worked well enough. michael http://www.globalchicago.net/wiki/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceTech/InvitationWriting Funda Oral wrote: I am curious to know some "exemples of invitation"

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Michael Herman
you'll find some samples here, funda. varying degrees of provocative, evocative and imaginative. and still they all worked well enough. michael Funda Oral wrote: Dear Listers, I am curious to know some "exemples of invitation" as described in the book " provocative, evocative, imaginati

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-22 Thread Harrison Owen
f anything I sensed a deeper connection with the participants. Harrison - Original Message - From: Douglas D. Germann, Sr. To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:53 PM Subject: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling Har

Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-21 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Harrison-- It seems to me you have invented a different way to conclude OST. I think there are 3 ways that are talked about here on the list: 1. Convergence (the first way). 2. Reopening the space for action planning (Chris Corrigan's way). 3. Opening breathing room (for times of shock). So we

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-21 Thread Funda Oral
s, Funda - Original Message - From: Harrison Owen To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 5:55 PM Subject: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling One of the earmarks of any good Open Space (and I've never seen a bad one) is tha

Re: Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-21 Thread Pannwitz, Michael M
Dear Harrison, my thoughts: I suspect that there is no alternative to leaving the circle or to step back...I further suspect that anything one might do with or to the people gathered (even though the urge might be overwhelming) will tend to shrink the space for the forces of selforganisation to do

Unintend Consequences, Collateral Damage and Truth Telling

2004-08-21 Thread Harrison Owen
One of the earmarks of any good Open Space (and I've never seen a bad one) is that Truth is spoken. It may be the sort of truth that manifests when professional colleagues honestly and authentically access the relative merits of particular approaches to a given issue -- not on the basis of who i