On 8/23/06, Justin T. Sampson wrote:
What happens in the presence of dominance relationships, such as a
boss in a work setting? I'm thinking in particular of one work
experience, which I left recently (hmm, Law of Two Feet). The CEO
of the company held quarterly company meetings that she calle
On 8/23/06, Lisa Heft wrote:
> Do you still see circumstances where you'd prefer or recommend
> a small-group meeting with a more active facilitator over a
> larger-group Open Space event?
I venture to say that the Open Space facilitator is very active
-- just not in ways similar to many other
, yes! Thank you...
Peggy
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From: Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:29 AM
Subject: [OSLIST] advanced butterfly
Dear Peggy and all,
What a rich conversation! What wonderful questions to sit with!
Wh
Hi, Justin --
You wrote a few things about appreciating environments and processes that
support (or constrict) your sharing thoughts in a group, and you had some
questions about how Open Space (and facilitators in Open Space) work in
different situations. You mentioned that at the National Coa
On 8/23/06, Tree Fitzpatrick wrote:
Until I began to live in OS, Justin, I almost never got to say
what I was thinking in group settings. [...] Now that I live in
OS, now that I know that I am always one of the right people,
now that I know that when I speak is the right time, I am open
and I te
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Subject: Re: advanced butterfly
Harrison Owen wrote:
> I suppose where I may take some issue with both Reinhard and
> Josef concerns the need to provide additional services,
> methods, techniques (in the Open Space environment) i
Good morning, Justin. I love your thoughtful questions.
On 8/23/06, Justin T. Sampson wrote:
As a shy/quiet person myself, I really like the idea of having a
facilitator present to effectively hold the space open for me
right then and there when I have some thoughts to get out.
Otherwise the
Harrison Owen wrote:
I suppose where I may take some issue with both Reinhard and
Josef concerns the need to provide additional services,
methods, techniques (in the Open Space environment) in order to
facilitate the emergence of whole people. Part of the
difficulty is that when such "services"
listening’.
Birgitt
Birgitt Williams
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Farmer-O'Neil
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Subject: advanced butterfly
Dear Peggy and all,
What a rich convers
"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a song."
Maya Angelou
Hi all !
I really love to read this forum. I always learn more about the trade as
well as about human nature. As I read the thread about advanced
butte
Exactly. Thank you, Wendy. Love,
Marina
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:30 PM
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Subject: advanced butterfly
Dear Peggy and all,
What a rich conversation! What wonderful questio
With luck I will totally work myself out of a job,
leaving nothing but Bumble bees and Butterflies! Yes!
Harrison
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Dear Peggy and all,
What a rich conversation! What wonderful questions to sit with!
What is coming up for me, Peggy, is that it is not a new technology that we
are waiting to see emerge, but rather that we are witnessing the growing
pains of a new competency in open space. I was blessed to expe
Dear all,
I have been following this conversation with interest.
Between the lines in some messages, I am hearing an expectation around other
people's
behavior in OST meetings and in the os of life.
Isn't OST and os in part about the fact that there *are* no rules?
Maybe there is just one Law, a
knew we were in open space and I could go.
I don't mean to keep talking about myself -- but my experience is the only
filter I have -- . . . but I think there is a nugget here to add to this
dialogue on advanced butterfly sessions.
I think that once the impulse arises to NOT BE OPEN, there is
additional opportunities
to become more conscious of what is really happening in the fields in which
we find ourselves. Is there value in any impulse so long as we greet it in
open (conscious) space?
On 8/18/06, anne stadler wrote:
Hi dear friends!
I am getting in on the tail-end of Advanced
Hi dear friends!
I am getting in on the tail-end of Advanced Butterfly conversation, (I
wasn¹t invited to participate at the beginning and just wandered in :)...so
how about THAT!) My comment is: there are always butterfly activities and
conversations. They do NOT belong on the Marketplace
one more thought on exclusion in OS. . .
The people who are convening a private session need to be clear within
themselves. Some of the pain of exclusion is rooted, I believe, in the
Advanced Butterfly's impulse to be secretive. . . this impulse might be
rooted in a desire to shield those who ar
Reading Peggy's comments about my comments (we are such brilliant women,
eh?!) leads me to talk a little bit more about my 'pain of exclusion'.
Yes, I have been stung by the pain of exclusion, in OS and in life. No, I
do not like the sting. Yes, I would prefer that no one ever make any
choices
he case in the PoP session that I described in the orginal message. And I
believe it is what increasingly happens when people live more and more in OS,
as indicated by the trend towards fewer postings, more butterflying at Spirited
Work, not to mention conferences in general.
I think I
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From: Michael Herman
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Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Advanced Butterfly Behavior/ collective butterfly and invitation
i had some of these same
I find this thread interesting, and want to add a few more questions.
If a conference on African-American experience is held in OS, can it
be limited to African-Americans? Same with a women's gathering or
men's gathering? Or would it not be OS if the invitation is limited
to one race or gen
i had some of these same thoughts, diane. reminded me that every
invitation has a boundary or edge. some fuzzy and some firm. this
group, this company, this color, whatever... and most importantly,
however... this *purpose*.
springing from your example, i'd say if the purpose is to explore wha
Thank you all for this conversation.
Two lines of thought are present with me, I'll try and give them words.
A meta note: I recognize that many individuals are deepening their
capacities for intimate interpersonal relationships where a collective is
actively engaging the wisdom that is present,
Yes, Justin, we did meet in the Precautionary Principle session. One of the
leaders of that session, Marc, was my butterfly buddy. I went to that
session because I love Marc and Kenoli. It was the only session I sat all
the way through and I only did it for love, not learning.
I heard many peo
ent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Advanced Butterfly Behavior
Once again, I have to weigh in and thank one of our masters, HO. Yes, yes,
yes, the butterfly is the essence of OS and any butterfly behavior resides
fully within this thing we c
On 8/15/06, Tree Fitzpatrick wrote:
I recently attended the National Conference on Dialogue and
Deliberation. Today, in my mailbox, I was invited to give
feedback about the conference. To my puzzlement, I learned, in
the survey questions, that many people reported that this
conference, NCDD, wa
Re: Advanced Butterfly BehaviorPeggy -- Just fly! Sometimes we need a perch to
fly from -- but no matter. It is all about flight. It is kind of like good
education. Always start from where the student is. Where you reach to is the
question. So my vision for (in) Open Space is that we all fly
Re: Advanced Butterfly BehaviorMark -- I will match you Butterfly to Butterfly.
And I win, if only because I have been doing it longer, at least in an Open
Space environment. I have often thought that the only reason I didn't jettison
OS after the first (successful) run was that it felt so
Re: Advanced Butterfly BehaviorFascinating...
I was right with Harrison & Tree, recalling my own experience so many humans
have had on the playground of life when you see a group of "kids" playing
and talking and you feel the exclusive energy of their group and know you
weren't
Re: Advanced Butterfly BehaviorThere is something I'm trying to get at and
still grappling with how to say it. It has something to do with what you said,
Harrison:
> Actually I would see "butterfly-ness" as the essence of Open Space and all
> the rest as
> a practi
forever!
I guess what I was responding to in Peggy's note was that I truly didn't
see the example she gave as being that of "advanced Butterfly Behavior." To
me it looked pretty much like same old, same old, (pre-selected group) and
truth be told -- "narrow minded and short si
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I am not sure that I would see such occurrences as "advanced butterfly
behavior. Narrow minded and shortsighted come to mind. Folks will do what they
will do -- and whatever happens is the only thing that could have. . . but I
really think that the conveners of such groups are short-cha
I was not invited to the 'private', advanced-butterfly
sessions. But as a high empath, and as someone who was very intentionally
holding space for both of these events, I 'felt' the dissonance. I knew
these private sessions were taking place. I can recall feeling twinges and
t
As I mentioned in my last e-mail, now that I'm back after about a year away
from the OS list, I've got a variety of questions, stories and learnings to
share over the next few weeks. This question popped to the top of my list.
There is a situation that I have now experienced twice in long
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