Re: "modified open space"

1998-05-04 Thread Michael Herman
larry, i'd like to echo your last paragraph... Even though I have some training in ritual, I have not been very fond of it. It becomes rote too easily. Finding a fit with the culture is important. Minimizing it is important. Some is necessary to engage the spirit in the room. ...and add that, wi

Re: "modified open space"

1998-05-04 Thread Larry Peterson
Ralph: I guessed your tongue was in your cheek, but my experience is that the "ritual" does make a difference. The ritual, even minimal, enhances the power of the beginning of the Open Space if it fits the community and culture. Or, it does the opposite. It and the facilitator connect to the energ

Re: "modified open space"

1998-05-04 Thread ralphsc
Dear Friends, I'm a bit surprised at the reaction to my little off-handed wise-crack. Do we really think the direction one walks makes a big difference? I have walked clockwise, counter-clockwise, in a weave, figure-eights, and randomly. Other patterns, too, I guess. Can't recall e

Re: "modified open space"

1998-05-04 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
for Ralph Copleman I haven't found it any different in the southern hemisphere, though I always use the talking stick anti-clockwise in the southern hemisphere and clockwise in the northern hemisphere - and I work in both parts of the world. I occasionally get mixed up which hemisphere I am in, an

Re: "modified open space"

1998-05-03 Thread Larry Peterson
Ralph: It would be different, I bet. How the circle is walked does certainly effect groups. I observed one set of colleagues Open the Space by each walking a different circle within the larger circle and walk different directions. One was speaking French and the other English. I think they wound t

Re: "modified open space"

1998-05-01 Thread ralphsc
Dear Friends, Several dozen open space events under my belt, and here's something new that happened to me today... After I did the introduction, a woman participant came up to me and said that I had to be more careful, as I walked in circles, of people who may suffer from motion sickness, as she

modified open space

1998-04-28 Thread Michael Herman
hello everyone, been catching up with this thread with interest. thanks for your question, birgitt. it's fun to see so many people together here. i was just remembering what uwe said yesterday (in my time) about open space being harrison's simple packaging of what so many others have talked abo

Re: modified open space

1998-04-27 Thread uwe weissflog
the observation how "uninformed" audiences form opinions. Thanks again for bringing this up. regards Uwe On 4/21/98, OSLIST wrote: >Hello friends and colleagues, >I am having a huge struggle and hope that we can get some dialogue >going >here that will help me out. The

Fw: "modified Open Space"

1998-04-27 Thread Peggy Holman, Open Space Institute
It seems to be a quirk of human nature that form stays long after spirit has departed. I experienced that in my own reaction to the religious rituals of my youth that held no meaning for me. I believe it exists in the original >intention of creating corporate charters centuries ago and what they

Re: Modified Open Space

1998-04-25 Thread eewing
Prasad: A thoughtful and insightful contribution. Esther

Re: Modified Open Space

1998-04-25 Thread Larry Peterson
I agree that there some underlying principles (4 + a law) that create the conditions for real "open space" --- space that creates the conditions for spirit connected self-organizing. I think there are some rituals that make it more likely that the space will be deep and connected. However, rituals

Re: Modified Open Space

1998-04-25 Thread PKaipa
I have been following the discussion with interest for many reasons. The first one is my interest in open space and how I add or change something that I intuitively feel that is needed. I do not necessarily mean to change the spirit of open space but the letter of open space, I feel is to be experi

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-24 Thread Robert R Lee
Most of this has already been said by others but I'll add my 2 cents anyway. At OT15 (you were there, Brigitt) someone put up a session on "structure." I was intrigued so I went. He couldn't picture how the Open Space format could work in a business setting, and wanted an answer to this. Hi

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-24 Thread Richard C. Holloway
I've enjoyed listening to the concerns, challenges and opportunities raised by this thread. When I literally stumbled into "Open Space Technology," I recognized the spirit and some elements of this methodology--from Bohmian dialog to Native American rituals to experiential learning processes to pe

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-23 Thread eewing
Birgitt: This brings up for me the problems of not at least copyrighting the terms. Harrison Owen's coining of the name is associated with a particular methodology. Even if he didn't accredit people in Open Space he could have copyrighted the name and then what? I'm not sure if we'd be any further

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-22 Thread Fr Brian S Bainbridge
Dear Birgitt, Thanks for the reflections on "modified open space". I like what you are saying, and I want to spend a bit of thinking time in response. I don't have that time right now, but will do so within 24 hours or so. Talk to you then. Cheers and blessings to all. BRIAN

"Modified Open Space"

1998-04-21 Thread Jody Orr
Birgitt, Thanks to all who are making this such a vital dialogue. I particularly want to honour the observations from Kay of the deceptive simplicity of Open Space and the challenges which come with this simplicity and Larry's commitment to encouraging "true" connection to Spirit. Time and again,

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-21 Thread Larry Peterson
Open Space and the principles and law (an perspective on spirit) that inform it are now inform almost every thing I do. I have used meeting process that is more guided than Open Space, but included some of the same principles--and have created the conditions for spirit in this way. I have done that

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-21 Thread CaveOat
Kay Vogt here. I have been in this type of discussion before. In particular within the Carl Rogers client- centered movement with regard to what is Rogerian therapy. The same arguments that have already surfaced here have been raging there for years. What has happened over a history of about 50 ye

Re: "modified open space"

1998-04-21 Thread FamilyFirm
Birgitt, Without permutations, we would still be one celled organisms hanging out in a hot spring somewhere. It seems to me that evolution needs to have lots of experiments that don't work. Just as much so in the evolution of mind, and social systems as in biology. There is a bigger Open Space w

"modified open space"

1998-04-21 Thread Birgitt Bolton
Hello friends and colleagues, I am having a huge struggle and hope that we can get some dialogue going here that will help me out. The topic is "modified open space". Within me, I have clarity that we either "Open Space" or we do not. For me there is no such thing as modified O

"modified open space" -Reply

1998-04-21 Thread GROVER PARTEE
Birgitt expressed some concerns about "modified open space." I find them quite reasonable. If people are turning away from Open Space because they saw what they were told was Open Space and were turned off by it, that is a problem. However, since "Open Space" and &quo