Re: Terrorised by Terror/ Fearful of (open) space

2007-04-05 Thread Brendan McKeague
How interesting Harrison - just had a quick look at the origins of the word - apparantly derived from the Greek word 'agora' meaning 'market place'so it literally means 'fear of the market place'...and, would you believe, 'agoraphobics are not afraid of open spaces themselves, but of having

FW: Terrorised by Terror/ Fearful of (open) space

2007-04-04 Thread Harrison Owen
ves Visit: <http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html> www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -Original Message- From: Brendan McKeague [mailto:mckea...@iprimus.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:57 AM To: hho...@verizon.net Subject: Re: Terrorised by Te

Terrorised by Terror

2007-04-04 Thread Brendan McKeague
Thanks for the prompt Harrison - have just started to read this thread about fear - fascinating conversation indeed and so much profound wisdom and experience condensed into brief commentaries by folks - thank you I will collate the comments and bring to my meeting with the psych professor

Re: Terrorised by Terror/ Fearful of (open) space

2007-04-03 Thread Harrison Owen
...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Terrorised by Terror Thanks for the prompt Harrison - have just started to read this thread about fear - fascinating conversation indeed and so much profound wisdom and experience condensed into brief commentaries by folks - thank you I will collate the com

Fwd: Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-04-01 Thread funda oral
w the archives Visit: www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of avner Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:07 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space c

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-04-01 Thread Harrison Owen
f avner Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:07 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes Harisson, the Rabbi you mentioned had moved a long way since then and he is trying to initiate these days a spiritual alliance between the Judaism and the Islam. Not letting fear con

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-04-01 Thread avner
: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes Something that Chris said caught my eye. "Phill Cass calls the "private voice of possibility" which emerges into the public consciousness. Suddenly we're not talking about the fearful aspects of a state run system of colonization, but rath

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-31 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
Dear Avner and all, Thank you Avner for your story about the Rabbi who is working to create a spiritual alliance between Judaism and Islam. And it is great there is an initiative to convince Israeli authorities to let Muslims of all ages pray on Temple Mount. >What kind of challenge are the Iran

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-31 Thread Chris Corrigan
During world war 2, there was Japanese interment and deportation in Canada too, and I'm not aware of any response to it at the time that was any more effective than that mounted by Japanese Canadians themselves. Canada rounded up thousands of Canadians of Japanese ancestry) out of sheer t

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Harrison Owen
hives/oslist.html> www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Corrigan Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 4:04 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Michael Maranda
Considering the question of America the Fearful and Frightened, I dont think this is something that began 5.5 years ago. I enjoy the analogy of the dojo/dojang and the idea of going beyond the question of safety with respect to the spaces we open. I spend a fair amount of time thinking about th

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Corrigan
ehalf Of *Chris Corrigan *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 4:04 PM *To:* osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu *Subject:* Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes This is a wise response Wendy, about Open Space not being safe space but rather a space in which we can train with our fear. Many of us who ar

Terrorized by terror - Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Pat Black
now. Politicians and entrepreneurs stand to gain a lot of power and wealth from large violent conflicts and they invest in them. That was true in World War II as it is now. The Rockefeller's made a fortune selling jet fuel to the Nazis. There is plenty of booty being made now. My feeling is tha

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Corrigan
This is a wise response Wendy, about Open Space not being safe space but rather a space in which we can train with our fear. Many of us who are martial artists will know the experience of bringing your fear to the dojang (in Korean, the training gym, like the Japanese dojo) and practice it with p

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
Dear Harrison, Thank you so much for starting this thread. Chris, your analogy of the hole in the bathtub is a very clear representation of what (little) we know about creating change in complex systems. Right now fear seems to be the primary attractor guiding the energy in the US system—and

Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Harrison Owen
Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, is usually over shadowed by Henry Kissinger, which is a shame, because the clarity and insight of Zbigniew is remarkable, I think. Case in point is his recent article, "Terrorized by the War on Terror." I bring all th

Re: Terrorized by terror -- Space closes

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Corrigan
r to Jimmy Carter, is usually over shadowed by Henry Kissinger, which is a shame, because the clarity and insight of Zbigniew is remarkable, I think. Case in point is his recent article, "Terrorized by the War on Terror." I bring all this up here because I think it has a lot to do with a

Nonviolent communication; facilitating around terror

2002-11-26 Thread Jeff Aitken
I want to post these two pieces to the oslist again. I received and posted them in September of 2001. -- Jeff - from Marshall Rosenberg's book, Nonviolent Communication (forwarded by Tom Atlee) "Murderer!", "Assassin", "Child-killer!", "Murderer!" I [Marshall Rosenberg] was

Re: terror.. oil

2001-09-14 Thread Heidi and Dan Chay
iginal Message - From: Jeff Aitken To: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: terror.. oil > Peg's question, and that writer, make me think. This is a heartfelt and > political posting... > > "Terrorism" seems to always be an extreme reaction to dominant c

terror.. oil

2001-09-14 Thread Jeff Aitken
Peg's question, and that writer, make me think. This is a heartfelt and political posting... "Terrorism" seems to always be an extreme reaction to dominant cultures. In many cases the cause is just, even tho the violence cannot be condoned; so an antidote to terror is to deepl

Re: terror

2001-09-13 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
In a message dated 9/12/01 12:26:09 AM, cor...@interchange.ubc.ca writes: << If I could I would take a leaf from my son's book and find a way to press my forehead to the world and murmer a loving song into its consciousness. >> Chris, this is what I see you doing, in your work and in the wise

Re: terror

2001-09-13 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Jeff, for those powerful words and challenging ideas. Joelle * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Vi

Re: terror

2001-09-12 Thread Rob Stroober
Alan Stewart [mailto:alan.stew...@senet.com.au] Sent: woensdag 12 september 2001 02:27 To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: terror Dear Friends The eerie, unimaginably sad news reached us around midnight our time and we listened long through the night. Our loving thoughts and sympat

Re: terror

2001-09-12 Thread lbu...@edgeofavalon.com
Florian wrote: "but what happend today also is part of humanity. it is. we are they, they are we. we are together part of the human unic whole. holding space including every possibility is hard to accept. we must." Your messages touch me deeply florian - thank you for sharing your heart and your

Re: terror

2001-09-12 Thread Alan Stewart
Dear Friends The eerie, unimaginably sad news reached us around midnight our time and we listened long through the night. Our loving thoughts and sympathy go to all the people most personally affected. Their horror is beyond comprehension. All the postings above give heart and hope that the huma

terror

2001-09-12 Thread Peggy Holman
Who are these people that act so unspeakably and celebrate it as righteousness? I want to eat their stories and fully digest them so that I can look myself in the mirror of their souls and love us all. Peggy __ Please note new address: pe...@opencirclecompa

Re: Terror

2001-09-12 Thread Diane Gibeault
What struck me yesterday was not only the surreal experience of this tragedy but also how the younger generation was reacting to it. The shock was beyond the event; it brought home in a deep way never felt before, the fundamental fears and questions about life and how our society is recklessly igno

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread florian fischer
my friends what is touching me so deep is the feeling that i am part of what happended: in the relationship of thinking about, thinking, suffering, looking on, judging, listening, being informed and doing it. there must have been preformed pictures in my brain, (otherwise i couldn´t realise what i

Re: tragedy & terror

2001-09-11 Thread Rachel Bolton
Hello All, Like everyone else in North America and perhaps around the world, I spent most of the day glued to the closest form of media. My office building holds about 20 small businesses, one who has a television set. We all gathered this morning to watch the initial coverage and I was astounde

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Audrey Coward
gt; From: Judi Richardson > > Reply-To: OSLIST > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:33:39 -0300 > > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > > Subject: Re: terror > > > > I received the following from a family member close to the terror: > > > > I sit in

terror

2001-09-11 Thread florian fischer
my tears let me touch you i need you, my friends florian * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu, Visit: http://

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread David Adams
What is in the minds of those that create terror and die as they do it? What is in that space? How does passion and responsibility become directed to such ends? What energy displaces mortal terror on to others, seen as objects? How can humans climb out of their embroidered monster head of hatred

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Harrison Owen
At 01:10 PM 9/11/2001 -0600, John wrote: over the years a strong faith has taken root in me. it is: love is all that matters. love is more important than life itself. thank you to all of you on this list serve that are vessels of so much love. i draw inspiration from you. when darkness comes

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Michael C. Funke
I have no words for this. I'm only able to say my deepest sympathy to you all in the States. I will mourn in the OPEN SPACE with you. Michael Funke & family *** Dr. Michael C. Funke Systemic Consulting Net Organisationsberatung & Personalen

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Judi Richardson
I received the following from a family member close to the terror: I sit in the US feeling the fear, tear hearing the anger, tears unknown how hold the space for healing hold the space anew I hear much talk of retaliation, aggression. Aggression breeds aggression. Let

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Judi Richardson
I received the following from a family member close to the terror: I sit in the US feeling the fear, tear hearing the anger, tears unknown how hold the space for healing hold the space anew I hear much talk of retaliation, aggression. Aggression breeds aggression. Let

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread john engle
potent stuff, jeff. thank you for sharing it. ...fascinating that you sent it when you did... over the years a strong faith has taken root in me. it is: love is all that matters. love is more important than life itself. thank you to all of you on this list serve that are vessels of so much love

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Chris Corrigan
I have been thinking the same thing all day John, and even as I awoke this morning to hear of this tragic weirdness, my son insisted on spending much of the first hour of our day together pressing his head to mine and making a little humming "om" sound. That's how he shows his love. And he made m

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Jeff Aitken
I sent that piece before I learned what happened in the US. I was responding to an attack in Istanbul, Turkey, near the German consulate, which I read about in the paper this morning; and also thinking of Palestinian and Israeli friends. My shock now is more immediate - and I can wonder why this i

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Judi Richardson
I sit here in Canada feeling the terror and pain feel my tears and the tears of my sisters and brothers in Washington and I hold space for the terrorism to stop. I hold space in my heart for peaceful negotiations and I invite others to hold that space... >>> florian fischer 09/11

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Jeff Aitken
This is from Arnold Mindell, in his book Sitting In the Fire (Lao Tse Press, Oregon, 1995). I offer it wishing to honor the anguish that comes thru in your writing so powerfully. -- Jeff "(T)errorists are just people. They are neither insane nor psychotic(W)omen and men tell stories about thei

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Gabriel Shirley
OSLIST > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:33:39 -0300 > To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > Subject: Re: terror > > I received the following from a family member close to the terror: > > I sit in the US > feeling the fear, tear > hearing the anger, tears > unknown how > > h

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez
To all my relations, In this moment of so many tears feeling our oneness our limitations opening to Spirit seeding compassion. In this moment of so much love feeling our connection our power opening space for all seeding forgiveness. Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C. Milagro Organizational Consul

Re: terror

2001-09-11 Thread kenoli Oleari
Is this the cry of pain of those pushed to final desperation? Will we ever learn that there is no solution in monopolizing power? When will wisdom become the basis for foreign policy? What will the man at the helm in this country do? When will compassion prevail? Kenoli -- Kenoli Oleari, Horizon