Re: [OTlist] ideas for fine motor warm ups for HW students??

2008-10-22 Thread Sue Doyle
paper tearing (can paste on a jar or paper card), marble or bead flicking, pencil rolling, 2 ball roll in hand, velcro or taped puzzles to place on bottom of desk so working on wrist and arm stability lying on floor, Just a few of the things I used to use Sue> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: otl

Re: [OTlist] ideas for fine motor warm ups for HW students??

2008-10-22 Thread Susan Orloff
Several, I have the W.I.N. tm Program and encourage you to see more on my website www.childrens-services.com--and there are more suggestions in my book, "Learning Re-Enabled" thanks again Susan Susan Orloff, OTR/L CEO/Executive Director Children's Special Services, LLC 7501 Auden Trail At

Re: [OTlist] We've Already Backed Oursleves Into a Corner!

2008-10-22 Thread Sue
Ron, It is my understanding that in 2009, the OASIS scores for bathing will be more closely scrutinized, with greater focus being on improving levels from start of care to end of cert. The need for OT will be greater now that there is a greater emphasis on improvements in certain ADL areas and

[OTlist] ideas for fine motor warm ups for HW students??

2008-10-22 Thread Angela B
Hi, I tutor for HW and want some new warm up ideas. I do the usual, hiding things in putty, beading, games like mini connect four, battleship, etc. Looking for some new ideas that are different. I was hoping to set up a bunch of little ziplock containers with an activity in each one just so I c

Re: [OTlist] We've Already Backed Oursleves Into a Corner!

2008-10-22 Thread Sue
Ron, I've been thinking about that inservice you plan to give.  What if you went through each ADL-related OASIS item and gave a few specific examples of how OT would bring up the start-of-care score; for example, patient was a 4 for bathing at start of care but after OT worked on bathing skills

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Deann Bayerl, MS OTR/l
Unfortunately, I don't have time to read through all the posts on this subject at this very moment, but I do want to comment because this topic comes up oh so often in my practice. I work with the elderly & my focus is generally low vision, but I do PRN at several CCRCs. There aren't enough finger

Re: [OTlist] We've Already Backed Oursleves Into a Corner!

2008-10-22 Thread Juan Turcios
whoa! I feel your pain. Its very hard to explain to others what we do as a profession. When anybody thinks about rehab PT is what comes to mind. I agree with you that in home care we should be the premier discipline. I feel that all of us OT's need to change people's perspective one at a time. Anot

Re: [OTlist] We've Already Backed Oursleves Into a Corner!

2008-10-22 Thread pat
Ron, when I told my surgeon that I was an OT, he didn't mention upper extremities at all. He said "Oh you're one of those people that does stained glass." ! This is a man who works just down the hall from the OT dept in a military hospital. I told him that I couldn't speak for what other OT

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread pat
Exactly, Neal! I always ask patients what their goals are, but the majority of the time, I cannot write them down. The insurance companies don't care if a patient can go fishing or play with their kids, and they would never pay for treatment with those goals. Ron, when reading your posts, I w

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Lehman, David
I also think this is an awesome approach to research. I am interested, Sue, in what your design is. I also feel there are variables concerning the clients emotional, spiritual, psychological, personality that can be masured and added to the multifactorial equation. Are you familiar with Struc

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Lehman, David
RonI was just going to let it go, but, I got to thinking about what you said in response to my Movement-Strategy-Impairment approach to examination. You said you have the client perform occupation activities to determine the deficits you need to work on, right? I think we do the same thing

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Neal Luther
I think your research is incredibly valuable both to us as a profession and ultimately to the communities we serve. Here's why. I'll use one of the areas your research is focused--interpersonal expressions of caring. Often the aged/elderly population have lost so many meaningful expressions of

[OTlist] We've Already Backed Oursleves Into a Corner!

2008-10-22 Thread Ron Carson
I am getting ready to do my first home health Medicare recert. While previewing the form, I notice the following outcome measures: * Dressing UB * Dressing LB * Bathing * Toileting * Transferring * Ambulation/Locomotion Honestly, my mouth just ab

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Ron Carson
Mary Alice, I'm sorry if I've left an impression that OT should not help patients identify occupational goals. In reality, I think getting the correct goals is one of the most important aspect of our jobs. If you've ever had the displeasure of working on goals that are unimportant to

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Ron Carson
Sue, I really like your researcher mind. Your message brings up many valid arguments as to how/why a stroke affects patients on global and often unseen levels. Regarding treatment, it is highly unfortunate that many OT's working in the medical model of treatment are highly restricted as t

Re: [OTlist] Clearly DelineatingOT and PT?

2008-10-22 Thread Mary Alice Cafiero
I have mostly kept quiet and just observed all the dialogue on this issue. I do feel the need to speak up now though. I see absolutely nothing wrong with asking a patient about different areas of occupation or observing different areas of occupational performance and then asking the patient