[OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training

2009-01-15 Thread Ron Carson
If an OT facilitates a non-ambulatory patient to transfer to/from her toilet using a walker is this PT? If an OT facilitates a patient to walk from their w/c to the toildet, is this PT? Thanks, Ron -- Ron Carson MHS, OT Hope Therapy Services, LLC www.HopeTherapyServices.com www.OTnow.com

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2009-01-16 Thread cmnahrwold
To: OTlist@OTnow.com Sent: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 7:36 pm Subject: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training If an OT facilitates a non-ambulatory patient to transfer to/from her toilet using a walker is this PT? If an OT facilitates a patient to walk from their w/c to the toildet, is this PT? Th

Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training

2009-01-16 Thread Ron Carson
Chris, will you expand on the following comment: "What does matter is what method the patient wants to work towards ..."? Thanks, Ron - Original Message - From: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gai

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2009-01-16 Thread Audra Ray
If this is an activity that is important to the patient and they want to engage in, then it is OT. Transfers and functional mobility is within the domain of OT practice. Audra Ray --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Ron Carson wrote: From: Ron Carson Subject: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training To

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2009-01-17 Thread Ron Carson
What is the difference between "functional mobility" and "gait training"? Is their a definitive "line" between the two? - Original Message - From: Audra Ray Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Ga

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2009-01-17 Thread cmnahrwold
nd if the rehab prognosis is positive and realistic, I certainly would practice walking to the toilet from their recliner, bed, etc, etc. Chris -Original Message- From: Ron Carson To: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Tra

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2009-01-17 Thread cmnahrwold
ation.? Chris -Original Message- From: Ron Carson To: Audra Ray Sent: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 7:46 am Subject: Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training What is the difference between "functional mobility" and "gait training"? Is their a definitive "line&q

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2009-01-17 Thread Ron Carson
But, what if they can't currently walk? Would you teach them to walk? - Original Message - From: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training cac> I certainly would practice walking to the toi

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2009-01-17 Thread Ron Carson
t] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training cac> To me functional mobility is the process of getting to point A to cac> point B regardless of compensation techniqes in the context of an cac> activity or a desired functional outcome.? Just the other day I cac> had a patient who wanted to

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2009-01-18 Thread Beth Woodcock
Myself, I feel as though this is when PT and OT become a team and tackle these things together. I work on functional transfers starting with stand pivot and try to build on those skills daily. If it is important to the patient, and that's their central focus, then I feel it is my job to assist

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2009-01-18 Thread cmnahrwold
ris Nahrwold MS, OTR -Original Message- From: Ron Carson To: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 7:38 pm Subject: Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training I like your definitions. In the two cases you mention, the patients are already ambulatory. What if they weren

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2009-01-19 Thread Ron Carson
7, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training BW> Myself, I feel as though this is when PT and OT become a team and tackle BW> these things together. I work on functional transfers starting with stand BW> pivot and try to build on those skills daily. If it is

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2009-01-19 Thread Ron Carson
get to the kitchen and cook, do the cac> laundry, go out to eat with my friends, etc etc.? The cac> occupational goals nearly write themselves. cac> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR cac> -Original Message- cac> From: Ron Carson cac> To: cmnahrw...@aol.com cac> Sent: Sat, 1

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2009-01-19 Thread cmnahrwold
ior letter.? Why does it all come back to PT versus OT? Chris -Original Message- From: Ron Carson To: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 8:02 pm Subject: Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training So Chris, if you had a patient that could only stand, but not ambulat

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2009-01-19 Thread Ron Carson
riginal Message - From: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training cac> Why does it all come back to PT versus OT? cac> Chris -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com

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2009-01-19 Thread Johnson, Arley
riginal Message - From: cmnahrw...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training cac> Why does it all come back to PT versus OT? cac> Chris -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.

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2009-01-20 Thread Audra Ray
ry 16, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training AR> If this is an activity that is important to the patient and they AR> want to engage in, then it is OT. Transfers and functional AR> mobility is within the domain of OT practice. AR> Audra Ray AR>

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2009-01-20 Thread Ron Carson
Is their a distinct line between FM and GT? Can OT do FM that involves GT? - Original Message - From: Audra Ray Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training AR> Functional mobility is movement from one place

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2009-01-21 Thread Juan Turcios
0, 2009 > To: OTlist@OTnow.com > Subj: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training > > AR> Functional mobility is movement from one place to another for > AR> ADLs/IADLs, as I understand it. Gait training is watching a > AR> patient walk and critiqueing

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2009-01-21 Thread Laura W.
so they can gain functional mobility. So, yes, there is a big difference between functional mobility and gait training. laura W. - Original Message - From: "Ron Carson" To: "Audra Ray" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~

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2009-01-21 Thread Audra Ray
s not on correcting the pattern of gait, it is on mobilizing safely from one point to another utilizing everything I have been educated on.   Audra Ray --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Ron Carson wrote: From: Ron Carson Subject: Re: [OTlist] Fn. Mobility ~vs~ Gait Training To: "Audra Ray" Date: T