Okay to recently I had someone ask me what is OT... so how do I answer that?
CR
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I recently attended a course and an OT there gave us this definition - I have
enlarged it and placed it in a prominant place in the office just to remind
me...
Following an OT session in a NZ primary school a 6 year old boy defined OT:
An Occupational Therapist is a person who finds o
Well, if you want to really get under Ron's skin you could say, "It's a lot like physical therapy, but we work with the arms."
Hello CR:
I am curious to know how *you* responded to the question.
Biraj
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> Okay to recently I had someone ask me what is OT... so how do I answer that?
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> CR
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> Developing your own mind and your psyche will keep you in control of your
> own reality. - Sister Souljah
Lets remind you that I am a PT student but what I did say was that OT is
a type of rehabilitation that returns people to their occupation. Occupation
is those things that people desire to do such as cooking, cleaning, bingo,
fishing, etc., not just the jobs that they are required to do.
CR
I am not that crazy, he taught me much better than that.
CR
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Jody, what a great way to start my morning with a huge smile!!
Your comments made me laugh. thanks!!
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Sac> Well, if you want to really get under Ron's skin you could say, "It's a lot
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Hello Carrie:
For one, I like your definition. Can I ask you though, now that you've
been in the field for a while, how do you see OT's practicing? Do you
see them practicing primarily as UE PT's or more as occupational
therapists?
Ron
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Hello Carrie:
For one, I like your definition. Can I ask you though, now that you've
been in the field for a while, how do you see OT's practicing? Do you
see them practicing primarily as UE PT's or more as occupational
t
I supervise therapists in all disciplines in a program for adults with developmental disabilities. We have made the decision to use PTs to provide UE work, so that the OTs are freed up to provide more occupational and functional programming. We have been happy with the results.
Susan
You did good for a PT student!!! Thank you Ron!!! I think people have a harder time
with the question of how is PT different from OT. How would you answer that one?
After you pass this test, I know you will make a great PT.
Lori
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PT's teach people to walk. OT's teach people to dance.
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As I like to tell my students and
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> Lets remind you that I am a PT student but what I did say was that OT is
> a type of rehabilitation that returns people to their occupation. Occupation
> is those things that people desire to do such as cooking, cleaning, bingo,
> fishing, etc., not just the jobs tha
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As I like to tell my students and anyone else who asks;
PT's teach people to walk. OT's teach people to dance.
Redge L Campbell MS OTR/L
Director of Rehabilitation Services
Harrison
Carrrie,
I agree that you definition is good. Don't sell you self short as a PT
A human life is like a single letter in the alphabet.
It can be meaningless. Or it can be part of a great
meaning. -Jewish Theological Seminary of America, NYC
Carrie,
I I the definition you gave. Don't sell yourself short as a PT student you have done a great job of seeking out to understand what OT and PT are and how they relate. Can I asked who asked for the definition?
Jennifer
I think you gave an excellent response to the question. Take a look below,
maybe it will help to clarify your definition further:
The Canadian Association of OTs describes it thus:
"Occupation is EVERYTHING people do to occupy themselves, including looking
after themselves (self-care), enjoying
a girl that is interested in becoming an OT. She is still trying to learn and
understand if this is something that she wants to take the time to go to
school for.
CR
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own reality. - Sister Souljah
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I think the big difference between PT and OT is that PT looks at a specific
part and determine what the dysfunction is and treat what they find from there.
This in turn aids the person to be able to return the patient to a function.
Where as with OT the look at the whole individual physically an
TO be honest, I have seen two different OT's and I will say that the first I
saw was more functionally based but she specialized in hands, burns and SI
therefore outside of treating those patients, she and I co-treated and she aided
in ther ex program more of the UE and the trunk, but as the pat
Oh and about that one therapist she doesn't even know special tests, or
anything abou the shoulder it makes me very angry!!
CR
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I think the big difference between PT and OT is that PT looks at a specific
part and determine what the dysfunction is and treat what they
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>I believe also that the use of occupational or "functional" (I hate using
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Hi Jimmie:
Not to put too fine a point on this but my sense is that when viewed from the
perspective of activities "Occupational" is a distinct and larger concept than
"functional". The former also includes within it what is meaningful to the
individual, whereas "functional" as the word implies re
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Hi Jimmie:
Not to put too fine a point on this but my sense is that when viewed from
the
perspective of activities "Occupational" is a distinct and larger concept
than
"functional". The former also includes within it what is me
CR-
You really impress me with your knowledge of PT and OT. You will make a fine PT. Hard to believe you are still a student!!! You passed the test.
Lori
e OTs too timid to stand up and,
announce our scope to address any dysfunctions (physical, social or mental)
that limits the client from doing what he should or wants to do (ofcourse,
what is acceptable to others and adheres to the so called societal 'norm')?
Joe
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y refining our own unique skills in the
best interest of our clients and for healthcare in general.
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thank you, it actually is thanks to my roomie...an OT... and one of the best
OT professors... they educated me
CR
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vidual's life.
JA> Thanks Brian for the reference to the roots of OT. I could not agree with
JA> you more.
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> Hi Jimmie:
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> Not to put too fine
urgeries, medication,
counseling, etcand all these ofcourse, improves or at least are intended
to improve the client's ability to engage in 'occupations' that he/ she
should normally or wishes to engage in!
Just my thoughts.
Joe
P.S:
Ron, your wife is right- Male OTs do have
oning' part of the day is yet an
'occupation' for normal physiological functioning).
Again, just my thoughts.
Joe
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Hi Jimmie:
My understanding of "functional" has been that they are those activities
which
an individual needs to do, is required to or expected to do - thus
functional.
And since you used the terms "occupational" and "functional
ive devices, surgeries, medication,
counseling, etcand all these ofcourse, improves or at least are intended
to improve the client's ability to engage in 'occupations' that he/ she
should normally or wishes to engage in!
Just my thoughts.
Joe
P.S:
Ron, your wife is right- Ma
relevance.
Jimmie
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Hello Jimmie:
I tend to disagree with your statement that: "A functional activity by
its definition has meanin
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don't forget, if you are to use history to define OT one must look to
the Hull House and the immense psycho-social influence that is largely lost in
many practice areas of OT... just my two cents.
Brian Holm
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them. They have their own problems.
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We are not
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Hello Estelle:
With all due respect, what may be a dead horse for yourself is new
material for other readers. I for
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DEB> With all due respect, what may be a dead horse for yourself is new
DEB> material for other readers. I for one, advocate the continu
est"..Our biggest
competition is within us, do we think we are the "fittest"?
Just my '10' cents - in the stock market (so probably worth one) :-)
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But there are OTs that are hand therapists and they certainly have the
training, knowledge, ability to treat those clients. It is allowed in our
Practice act. A lot of the modalities I hear you all putting down are
things OTs a
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JA> To: Jimmie Arcenaux Subject: Re: [OTlist] what is OT?
JA> Hello Jimmie:
JA> I tend to disagree with your statement that: "A functional activity
JA> by its definition has meani
If something impacts your ability to engage in life roles then it
probably is an occupation. By definition, occupation is how we are able
to meet our defined life roles.
Ron
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Dear Jimmie-
I told you this was an issue in the past. Now, you see what I mean. I say
we are trained in school and licensed in our states to do it, then it is OT.
AOTA approves, NBCOT approves, states approve(of course some require
additional tra
and, part of the body. So do we see a
gastro-enterologist, or a proctologist? :-)
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> i smile
But there are OTs that are hand therapists and they certainly have the training,
knowledge, ability to treat those clients. It is allowed in our Practice act. A lot
of the modalities I hear you all putting down are things OTs are trained and and are
licensed to do(heat packs, ultrasound, estim
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> Lori,
> I too use modalities infrequently (approximately less than 10% of my
> patients), but feel the use of modalities can be incorporated int
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Hello Joe:
I imagine that the number of PT's billing under self-care and community
re-entry is very small. But maybe you are correct.
Everything done to occu
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Hello Lori:
I really struggle with OT's using thermoelectric modalities.
Please understand that I have used e-stim, tens, hot/cold, etc as part
of my treatment plans. And as you say, all of these were intended to
improve
Dear Jimmie-
I told you this was an issue in the past. Now, you see what I mean. I say we are
trained in school and licensed in our states to do it, then it is OT. AOTA approves,
NBCOT approves, states approve(of course some require additional training). So, it is
OT
Lori
In a message
To add to my last post, please understand that I hardly ever use thermoelectric
modalities. But, when I need to use them, I want to be able to use them! I am
trained to use them and have the additional training and supervision to use them that
is required in my state.
Lori
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Hello Lori:
I really struggle with OT's using thermoelectric modalities.
Please understand that I have used e-stim, tens, hot/cold, etc as part
of my treatment plans. And as you say, all of these were intended to
improve function. Of course, the PT's doing similar treatments also
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ly. Hence, "we treat the whole person, just don't
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JA> I tend to disagree with your statement that: "A functional
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I imagine that the number of PT's billing under self-care and community
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Eve
I am with you Jimmie. Modalities were put down(by some) in the past if used for any reason, no matter if followed by or intended to improve function or occupation.
Lori
That's a great definition!
Mary
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I recently attended a course and an OT there gave us this definitio
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That's a great definition!
Mary
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It may not be a *complete* definition, but coming from a six year old it's
wonderful if kept in context...
and it beats the heck out of
much idea of what OTs do. In any event
no offense was meant and I hope none taken.
Best,
Biraj
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That's a great definition!
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eone to be able to do, then changes it so
that the person is able to do it".
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That's a great definition!
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